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JW1

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New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« on: October 06, 2009, 07:31:56 pm »
I am about to go for an installed WFP system (can't do it myself, and haven't got any friends) so 500l or 250l?

I am a one man band, average 4-5 hours trad per day mainly residential. Not looking to expand round size.

Will 250 be enough (would save me a chunk of money)

What is your view of a 250l system?

If it's too small for me, who IS is suitable for? I can't imagine many people do less work than I do!!

I know there are 3 and 400l tanks available, but like the Brodex option at present.  Although would consider other options.

dd

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 04:31:58 pm »
Would depend on payload of your van. IMO opinion go for 500l. Very little price difference in a 500l tank to a 250l tank. If anyone charges you a lot more for this they are simply ripping you off.

tomy jackson

Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 04:34:12 pm »
its beter to be too big than to small

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 04:39:04 pm »
Cheers

Brodex system;

500l - £3300 (way too much for me)
250l - Closer to £2000

So I am shopping around

pingu

Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 04:42:39 pm »
Ever thought about DIY..you would save yourself a wodge of cash...

The only complicated part is finding someone to safely fit a cage around your tank to the van.

Cheers
Dave.

dd

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 04:44:15 pm »
Cheers

Brodex system;

500l - £3300 (way too much for me)
250l - Closer to £2000

So I am shopping around
Lot of guys on here use Pure Freedom. They would be a lot cheaper.

JRDEasiReach

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 04:44:41 pm »
m8 have you tried sureclean systems? they are over in england and also in NI, the NI place is linked to them and thats where i got mine from 350L baffled tank, in a steel frame, with 4040 RO Unit, DI Vessel, all fixtures and fittings, plus hose and reel, 4 section WFP, TDS meter and fitting all for around 2500, its only pence for the different size of tanks and cage, that price you have there seems rough.  Google them and see.
JRD Easi Reach
'The Ladderless Window Cleaning System'

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 05:13:40 pm »
m8 have you tried sureclean systems? they are over in england and also in NI, the NI place is linked to them and thats where i got mine from 350L baffled tank, in a steel frame, with 4040 RO Unit, DI Vessel, all fixtures and fittings, plus hose and reel, 4 section WFP, TDS meter and fitting all for around 2500, its only pence for the different size of tanks and cage, that price you have there seems rough.  Google them and see.

Cheers

I just got off the phone to them, and they were very helpful, will give me a quote by email shortly.

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2009, 05:15:04 pm »
Cheers

Brodex system;

500l - £3300 (way too much for me)
250l - Closer to £2000

So I am shopping around
Lot of guys on here use Pure Freedom. They would be a lot cheaper.

Although I am looking at different options, Purefreedom are looking favourite at the moment, based on price and good reports on here.

traps7

Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 05:39:09 pm »
If your van can take the weight I'd definatley go for the 500 litre. I asked on here the same question a few months back and Ian from windowwashers said go for a least 500 litre. I'm so glad I took his advice.


JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2009, 11:32:50 am »
Purefreedom have recommended this;

1 x High volume 40 inch Reverse Osmosis System with automatic fill & shutoff.

2 x 20 inch Reverse Osmosis Prefilters

1 x 500 litre Baffled Tank

Full stainless steel securing cage.

2 x 100 psi Pumps & Strainers

2 x Flowmaster Digital Electronic Pump controller, one controller to incorporate a level fill relay and the other to have a built in split load relay wired to the vehicle to provide on board charging.

1 x 100 Ah Deep Cycle Leisure Battery

1 x 18x6" DI vessel complete with Deionisation resin

1 x Professional Metal Hose Reel with 100mtrs of 8mm Microbore Hose.

1 x Handheld Digital TDS Meter

1 x GXTEL 4S Fibre Glass pole c/w brush

1 x GXTEL 20S Fibre Glass pole c/w brush

1 x Protectacote kit to protect the back of the van from water spillage

External Ports for filling and working from the vehicle with it locked

All fixtures and fittings and a professional trouble free installation at our factory in one day, and if required training in the use of water fed poles can be arranged

 

The cost for the above will be £2422.73 including VAT

Does it sound like a good starter system?  They suggest 2 pumps (one for a back-up) even though I am a one man band, is that necessary?

Cost ok?  Poles ok?

Any advice gratefully received, cheers

Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2009, 11:41:27 am »
you'll have guys tell you you could probably do it cheeper DIY, but for the hassle you save yourself that looks a good deal

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2009, 11:43:25 am »
i would only have the one man setup, you can always get a backpack for around the same price as a pump.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

JW1

  • Posts: 136
Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2009, 12:20:46 pm »
i would only have the one man setup, you can always get a backpack for around the same price as a pump.

Forgot to add this note;

We also spoke about a 25lt Trolley and if bought at the same the total would become £2897.73 including VAT

Alistair@AWC

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2009, 12:31:00 pm »
Jon,

You can get a great 35 Litre trolley from omnipole for £246.10 Delivered, I would opt for that instead also knocking off the second pump as in an emergency you could get by with connecting the trolley to your system for the couple of days it would take for a new pump to arrive!

Also sorry I don't understand what those 2 poles are can you tell me the lengths!

Regards

Al

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2009, 01:08:04 pm »
Thanks for the advice Al. The poles are a 4ft and a 20 ft.

Alistair@AWC

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2009, 01:26:09 pm »
Jon,

Find out what your being charged for the 2 poles combined and if your budget would stretch to it swap them for a SLX-25ft carbon pole which would cost you around £400 ready to work.

Failing that as I know it can be very expensive putting all this together just dump the 4ft pole as its completely useless and you'll never use it!

Just to give you something else to think about, in my opinion if you have a garage I would set up your RO system in there and have the van as a pure water delivery system

Al

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2009, 02:15:40 pm »
That's good advice about the 4ft pole, cheers. Please can you tell me what the advantages of setting up the system in the garage are as I have not explored it as an option. All together I really don't want to spend more than 2k, think 400l per day should be enough and want a really easy to use system.

Sean Dyer

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2009, 02:18:19 pm »
Jon,

Find out what your being charged for the 2 poles combined and if your budget would stretch to it swap them for a SLX-25ft carbon pole which would cost you around £400 ready to work.

Failing that as I know it can be very expensive putting all this together just dump the 4ft pole as its completely useless and you'll never use it!

Just to give you something else to think about, in my opinion if you have a garage I would set up your RO system in there and have the van as a pure water delivery system

Al

I dont think he will be cleaning downstairs with a 25 ft slx will he ? whats the closed length on that??


Sean Dyer

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2009, 02:19:31 pm »
5'3 just checked :)

IS that ok for bottoms?