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Alistair@AWC

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2009, 03:07:04 pm »
Sean,

I'm sure there are going to be different opinions on this but I dont think he'll have any problems cleaning downstairs at 5'3", we've used 6' poles in the past and the only time if gets difficult is down the tight sides of conservatories but we just cleaned them side on.


Jon,

I really don't know your situation or your water TDS but you could buy a second hand 1000 litre IBC and set up the RO (from Purefreedom or elsewhere) in your garage meaning you don't have to leave your van hooked up to the mains overnight you can just leave the garage system producing water while your at work and transfer it via a cheap submersible pump

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2009, 03:17:38 pm »
I have a little 4ft that extends to 7ft that I use on bungalows.
It cost £40 ready to go.



Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2009, 03:34:26 pm »
I'm assuming that my TDS level is fairly high, although I haven't checked it yet. I live in northants. I had been told that of I only use 400l on my own during the 5 hours I work (including travelling) I could fill the tank in around 5 hours (4pm til 9pm?)

I thought I would be ok keeping all the kit in the van?

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2009, 03:40:14 pm »
John I have a 500GPD RO with a 350ltr tank which is all located in the van.
The only time I see the use of an IBC tank is if you have more than one van to fill or you are that busy you go through water like its going out of fashion.



Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Alistair@AWC

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2009, 03:44:22 pm »
Jon,

It would be OK to leave it in your van & if you only use it for work its probably your best option.


Matt,

We do fall into that category so probably why I prefer it  ;)

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2009, 03:50:24 pm »
Al I am hoping to take someone on in the new year with a second van, so I would be getting an IBC tank, why pay for 2 RO systems when one can supply 2 vans  ;) ;D
Only snag is, I have nowhere to put the dam thing lol, we have 3 sheds in the back garden 2 of them are full to the brim with house stuff and tumble dryer, the 3rd has now been turned into an office.
I live in a mid terraced house, I couldn't even put a sub terrain IBC tank in the back.



Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2009, 03:54:41 pm »
After around a month of Reading and writing threads for and against wfp, discussing van and system options, finding suppliers, getting quotes, working out requirements, preparing how to educate customers and realising that the end result for a large number of my jobs mat not be cleaner or quicker I am left scratching my head.

Especially as I had a really good day today with my bucket, ladder and blade.

No TDS reading, tank filling, resin an batttery managing, hose uncoiling or customer dissatisfaction. Perhaps I'll end up keeping my £2500 until a more simple solution presents itself.

I really want to be off the ladders for safety reasons, but not if it brings me a world of stress.

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2009, 04:09:05 pm »
Jon I have a lot less stress with WFP, I have only had one person cancel on me and that was because the windows were left wet and the water had dripped down the walls of her house. that is the norm with WFP.
I asked her what does she do when it rains, put up a huge brollie?  ;D
one thing I would say Jon is what if you fell off your ladders?
how much income would you lose?
the vast majority of poeple don't care how the windows are cleaned as long as they are clean.
Also a selling point I make is that fact that after the windows have been cleaned the subsequent rain showers will dry spottless.


Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

windowcleaninginessex.co.uk

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2009, 04:27:05 pm »
I have a little 4ft that extends to 7ft that I use on bungalows.
It cost £40 ready to go.

Matt
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Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2009, 04:28:50 pm »
I have a little 4ft that extends to 7ft that I use on bungalows.
It cost £40 ready to go.

Matt
Matt, what make and where from


Polarbrite.
Tell Craig I sent you lol
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Alistair@AWC

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2009, 04:32:09 pm »
Sorry Jon,

I didnt mean to add to your confusion, just go with the purefreedom set up they have offered you minus the 4ft pole and the extra pump.

When your on your 3rd and 4th cleans you'll be wondering why you didn't do it sooner

Sean Dyer

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2009, 05:35:02 pm »
thats fine i just wondered as n=my brodex 27 ft is a pig when closed, its about 7 fott lol so just spoke before i checked facts :)

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2009, 05:42:48 pm »
Sorry Jon,

I didnt mean to add to your confusion, just go with the purefreedom set up they have offered you minus the 4ft pole and the extra pump.

When your on your 3rd and 4th cleans you'll be wondering why you didn't do it sooner

Cheers again Al, I have taken your advice and will await revised price from Purefreedom.

I know I will be WFP eventually (maybe in the next few weeks) so I may as well bite the bullet...

... It didn't help reading this thread today either; http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=82274.0;all

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2009, 05:56:57 pm »
Sorry Jon,

I didnt mean to add to your confusion, just go with the purefreedom set up they have offered you minus the 4ft pole and the extra pump.

When your on your 3rd and 4th cleans you'll be wondering why you didn't do it sooner

Cheers again Al, I have taken your advice and will await revised price from Purefreedom.

I know I will be WFP eventually (maybe in the next few weeks) so I may as well bite the bullet...

... It didn't help reading this thread today either; http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=82274.0;all


Jon I have been WFP for best part of this year and encountered bird muck.
What I do is give the muck a good soaking first, you have to let it rehydrate then brush away.
I have never had a problem with the muck re-appearing once the window has dried.



Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2009, 05:59:04 pm »
if you are in a rush unger make a scraper that can attach to an extension pole.





Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2009, 06:37:03 pm »
Oops, just read back and realised I got my Matts and Als mixed up a couple of times  :-[

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2009, 06:43:47 pm »
On a separate issue, I live in the sticks and I am not on mains drainage.  The ony drain hole I have is by the back door, and I think it takes the waste across the back garden to a soak away somewhere.

Could I have a problem with the waste water? Van system at front of house, drain hole 50ft away at back and only to a soak away?

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2009, 06:46:26 pm »
You could always fit a hose to your waste pipe.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

JW1

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2009, 07:32:00 pm »
I'm not entirely sure that the soak away could take 5 hours of waste water a day

dd

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Re: New WFP system, need advice on tank size?
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2009, 08:45:14 pm »
You could go for a DI only option so waste water and water pressure would not be a problem. Could cost you £100 a month plus though, unless your water supply has a low tds (not many of us are that lucky though). May well pay you to check your water tds before proceeding.