[[GQC] Tim]

Haven't heard anything about this pole for a very long time. Anyone in the know regarding this pole, and when it will come out? Peter perhaps?

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Haven't heard anything about this pole for a very long time. Anyone in the know regarding this pole, and when it will come out? Peter perhaps?

I don't think this concept is acceptable for mainstream wfp, it won't catch on IMO therefore not worth the investment for R&D, manufacture etc.


Look at the auto-brush, interesting idea but useless in practice. There can be a tendancy to solve problems that are created & don't actually exist in real life.

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

i strongly disagree

the autobrush works absolutely fine and the clampless pole is what i prefer.

i understand that most folk are happy with poles that they are TOLD to use by the well known suppliers out there and thats fair enough if you are happy with your clamped pole, and to be fair they have their place, however i wouldnt want to force anyone to stick to just clamped poles, especially as there are alternatives out there thanks to ideas and efforts of the likes of peter.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Try a Gardiner super-lite brush, you might change your mind! The auto is like swinging a transformer round on the end of your pole!

[mci services]

peter is in the process of trialing the new pole, i was at his workshop a few weeks back and the new poles are there but isnt quite happy yet as is still tweaking and testing

and the auto brush is ace

[mci services]

How does it work if you don’t lock the sections with a clamp?

the internal pole hose stops the pole  from comming down the tricky bit is to stop the sections spinning and thats what petes managed to do, well almost

[jouk45]

Haven't heard anything about this pole for a very long time. Anyone in the know regarding this pole, and when it will come out? Peter perhaps?

I don't think this concept is acceptable for mainstream wfp, it won't catch on IMO therefore not worth the investment for R&D, manufacture etc.


Look at the auto-brush, interesting idea but useless in practice. There can be a tendancy to solve problems that are created & don't actually exist in real life.

the switch can be added to any brush including the super-lite brush, which is what i am going to do when i order mine next week, theres virtualy no weight to the switch,

[Window Washers]

Haven't heard anything about this pole for a very long time. Anyone in the know regarding this pole, and when it will come out? Peter perhaps?

I don't think this concept is acceptable for mainstream wfp, it won't catch on IMO therefore not worth the investment for R&D, manufacture etc.


Look at the auto-brush, interesting idea but useless in practice. There can be a tendancy to solve problems that are created & don't actually exist in real life.

the switch can be added to any brush including the super-lite brush, which is what i am going to do when i order mine next week, theres virtualy no weight to the switch,

have to say totally agree with Joe on this, I use a tap so don't need the auto brush I do have one and the switch is very lite. and does not take many brain cells to convert any brush to use it. think the clampless pole is coming out soon.. I am sure when it does it will get reviews on here, if peter wants me to have a honest review I am more than willing to give it a window washers road test for a week.

Ian

[michael papworth]

How does it work if you don’t lock the sections with a clamp?

the internal pole hose stops the pole  from comming down the tricky bit is to stop the sections spinning and thats what petes managed to do, well almost

The clamps locking two sections together are another factor for making the pole rigid, if he is using the hose to stop the sections falling and sorts out the spinning problem, will the pole still be lose and less rigid?

I still can’t see the benefits having a pole without clamps even if all the problems were ironed out. Can you list any benefits with this type of pole yourself?

Yes. Speed. It's much faster to bump your clampless pole up and down than to have to mess about with clamps. I used my pole clampless when I broke a clamp handle first job one morning. I tried it clampless and removed the other clamp in the afternoon.

Clampless is king of speed.

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

speed...without a doubt.....i save a wee bit of time putting the pole up as i pull the pole out to the desired height and lift it, but when it comes to bringing it back down thats where the clampless pole comes into its own.....i can be doing a third floor window (start counting) and by the 3rd count i am cleaning the bottom window with the same pole and brush

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

i have tried and use clamped poles from time to time and they have their place ewan, some of them are quite good......and its good that you have a pole that you can lower in 3 seconds (which one is it you are using btw) but i have to say i prefer clampless......have you had a try of a clampless pole ewan?

[jouk45]

i would say a couple of ounce of the pole as there will be no clamps , probably easier going over garages to reach window, not catching on the gutter,  

[jouk45]

scrimman, i have tried many times to contact peter, i have a good idea for a trigger that can hold and release the hose automaticly, so you dont need to use your hand holding the hose,

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

very interesting Joe....i would be interested in having a look, my research and development team will be in touch with you.

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

hello Joe how its going.....scrimmy's research and development team

just kidding.....one question though Joe...how will the pole stay up without holding the hose?

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

doh, i need to learn how to read...you answered it already...a trigger......i reckon i am just as brite as trigger from only fools and horses....hey that reminds me of the episode with trigger getting his award from the council for having his broom for the longest time, its only had 6 new heads and 15 new handles.........i have had the same squeegee for the last 25 years, its only had 15 new channels and 20 new handles.

[dd]

I find it a bit hard to believe Ewan or anyone else lowers a pole from third floor and is cleaning ground floor in under 3 seconds.

Also Ewan seems reluctant to divulge which poles he uses (I asked once before). This is not a trick question or a dig at Ewan.

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

its true, i do

clampless pole...comes down like a bullet train

[leapstallbuildings]

doh, i need to learn how to read...you answered it already...a trigger......i reckon i am just as brite as trigger from only fools and horses....hey that reminds me of the episode with trigger getting his award from the council for having his broom for the longest time, its only had 6 new heads and 15 new handles.........i have had the same squeegee for the last 25 years, its only had 15 new channels and 20 new handles.

Same rubber though   

[Nathanael Jones]

Clampless is MUCH quicker,... the old style poles where the head spins are tricky to use though and I found they wore out very quickly. The old ones are fibreglass, so they are a bit whippy, but no more so than clamped poles IMO. I'd love to see the same concept applied to a CF pole moulded in a shape so the sections wouldn't spin. I suspect carbon wear would make the whole idea unworkable though.