[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

i am not getting at you personally ewan, but i would say to ANYONE who slates an idea or a concept WITHOUT even trying it out for themselves could be accused of being a bit narrow minded, and that would go for folks that think ONLY clampless poles are best without trying out clamped poles

each to their own in the end surely ewan?

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Imagine working in all the positions & situations that you encounter in a day & HAVING to hold the pole hose secure at all times!!! What if your over a conny roof or reaching over a BMW & you let go!!!!

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Well???


Don't tell me you never thought of that one?

[macmac]

Imagine working in all the positions & situations that you encounter in a day & HAVING to hold the pole hose secure at all times!!! What if your over a conny roof or reaching over a BMW & you let go!!!!

That's just what I was thinking.

[jouk45]

thats why i mentioned, i have the trigger to stop you actualy holding the hose 

[Nathanael Jones]

Imagine working in all the positions & situations that you encounter in a day & HAVING to hold the pole hose secure at all times!!! What if your over a conny roof or reaching over a BMW & you let go!!!!

If you let go the pole just concertina's back into itself,.. it doesn't drop to the floor!

Its actually very easy to do,.. just 1 finger on the basecap of the pole,...

[leapstallbuildings]

Imagine working in all the positions & situations that you encounter in a day & HAVING to hold the pole hose secure at all times!!! What if your over a conny roof or reaching over a BMW & you let go!!!!

Wouldn't some sort of clamp near the base of the pole be able to hold the hose in position for awkward windows?  Oddly enough, something similar to the earlier SLX clamps that could be adapted to hold the hose but not actually pinch it enough to stop the flow.  Just a matter of looping the pole hose up a couple of inches, clamp it, then clean.  I imagine it wouldn't be too laborious as it would only be for certain trickier windows.  I've never tried telesccopic clampess so this might be a daft thought.

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

i think the debate can go on and on so i reckon the best thing for all those who are curious about the merits of clampless poles and dont want to fork out a couple of hundred quid on peters pole without being reassured of the merits then i suggest you buy this cheap imitation.

http://www.skyblueleisure.co.uk/acatalog/10_metre_Telescopic_pole.html



it will last approx 3-6 months using it 3 days a week.

all you do is buy an alloy pole holder from cleantech or any supplier and an angle adaptor from any supplier and some 10mm OD hose again from any supplier ( i find 30 metres of it works best for a trolley system, but you can buy it in 100 metre reels from hydrasun for about 30 quid)

then assembly of the thing takes 10 mins.....discard a couple of sections ( to whichever one the pole holder fits into)

simples.


then when you see how easy it is to hold it up and let it drop etc (takes acouple of minutes to get used to) you can then invest in peters professional pole.

[EZclean]

if using the harris clampless, for any awkward windows over conservatories, then i use the clamps, other than that they are slackened off for any other job.
on 2storie houses no other clamped pole will come close for speed of use.
its not just the lowering of the pole that is quick, extending it too is so fast, i can have the poe from closed to cleaning in 5sec on an upstairs window. then 2sec to come down.
also a good advantage is down the sides of houses cleaning landing windows, once the pole is up and you have no room to stand back then just release the hose at the base and let it come down a few inches or as much as you need without ever stopping cleaning.
 i use ordinary non-reinforced 5mm clear pole hose.

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

i too use the harris that way...great piece of kit......not high enough for 3 rd floors though which is a shame..but its excellent on 2 story houses.

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

for that kind of work.....not enough time to justify you splashing out the 25 quid i would say ewan.......however if you were fortunate enough to have some good work next to each other..ie a run of say 20 or more houses in a row then you will save at least 10-15% in time

[[GQC] Tim]

for that kind of work.....not enough time to justify you splashing out the 25 quid i would say ewan.......however if you were fortunate enough to have some good work next to each other..ie a run of say 20 or more houses in a row then you will save at least 10-15% in time

I just calculated how long it takes to open and close 4 clamps. About 8 seconds. Usually I only use the top two sections, which reaches most of my works. So let's say it takes me 10 seconds tops to open and close them on a standard semi detached house. If I would do 20 of them a day, I would save 200 seconds a day. Which translates to 3 minutes gained a day. Which would mean probably £2 to £3 a day. I think in the long run, it could make you some more money. I think 10-15% is a bit too optimistic.

[ftp]

What clamped pole do you have Ewan?

[ftp]

What clamped pole do you have Ewan?

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for that kind of work.....not enough time to justify you splashing out the 25 quid i would say ewan.......however if you were fortunate enough to have some good work next to each other..ie a run of say 20 or more houses in a row then you will save at least 10-15% in time

I just calculated how long it takes to open and close 4 clamps. About 8 seconds. Usually I only use the top two sections, which reaches most of my works. So let's say it takes me 10 seconds tops to open and close them on a standard semi detached house. If I would do 20 of them a day, I would save 200 seconds a day. Which translates to 3 minutes gained a day. Which would mean probably £2 to £3 a day. I think in the long run, it could make you some more money. I think 10-15% is a bit too optimistic.

For me it would mean I went home 3 minutes earlier than I would have otherwise. I have a target to earn and go out and earn it. The I go home. Simples.

[dd]

What clamped pole do you have Ewan?

It is top secret. If he told you he would probably have to kill you.

[macmac]

Let's wait & see, might not just be about time saved but more ease of use.

If someone described a wagtail flipper to me 6 months ago I would probably have laughed! Then I got one & now it has replaced all my traditional squeegees 6" & above!!!!

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

i hear an echo

what clamped pole do you use ewan?

maybe you are using the new MI5 or the top secret wfp pole that NASA is working on?...doh i just gave the game away..sorry NASA......i couldnt help it.......but i promise i wont tell them about the new alien find.

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It wont matter what pole he is using apparently.....


He likes his notoriety anyway.