[ftp]

What tools etc do you consider to be good value in the window cleaning trade?
Are carbon poles good value or blooming expensive?
Ro systems  good value or an awefull lot of money for a filtering system.
Brushes at close to £40 a go - good value?
Vacuum £600+ just for an idustrial vac - why?
£25 for a wagtail - good value?
£90+ for three membranes
£80 for a bag of resin.
£3000 for a factory fit hot add on?

Do you grumble at the prices when you reorder or do you feel they are normal because it's a trade?
 I'll start off by saying carbon poles are worth the money.

[NWH]

All i`m interested in is things for work that make my working day easier and nothing else price dosen`t come into it really,is this product going to earn me more money quicker make my muscles ache less overall make my life better.If a pole is £200 cheaper but a lot lot harder on my body price isn`t the issue,you get what you pay for in life.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Imagine this offer-

A free supply of fiber glass poles or £600 per annum for a good carbon pole?

£600 option for me every time!

Which would you guys choose?

[jonnyald]

wagtail =  anything wagtails worth evry penny ,  angle arm, bucket clip ,flipper

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

£300 option

This isn't an option at the mo' though

So which one of the two?

[Sean Dyer]

Brushes are too expensive.
Hot add on are to expensive
Gutter vacs are all to expensive
Carbon fibre pole are also to expensive

you usually spout off that it doesnt matter what equipment costs it earns you so much more and so on..

[RK Cleaning Services]

never used a wagtail but my unger trad gear's still going strong since 2004
can't be bad going

[martinsadie]

True but I would prefer to pay lessCarbon fibre, winproclean

so would your customers 

[martinsadie]

never used a wagtail but my unger trad gear's still going strong since 2004
can't be bad going

what the same rubber 

[NWH]

3k for a hot add on or nearly 13k from ionic.

[Clive McDonald]

I agree with NWH, but  take a much harder line than he does. I bought my van (£8000) when i had thirty customers to make my working day easier. Every resource i have is thrown at making the work easier.

But there are things you haven't considered, systems and branding for instance. I spend a fortune on these.

[ftp]

What do you mean by branding? Do you mean your company name?

[Clive McDonald]

yes, i like this side of things, you have enough work, i don't. I progressed through my own leaflets, pro leafets, signed van. Some of the things i did were wrong. Slowly, and expensively i have been correcting my mistakes.

I read books about this sort of thing and study things like coke and mcdonalds.When you get it right it makes such a difference. Sometimes people get it right almost by accident (sqeaky's duck) but i have had to work at it.

Just because this is what i strongly believe doesn't make me right. I noticed Dave st ives saying he doesn't believe in advertising. I think dave's a good businessman but we differ on this, my referrals are through the roof and it's not because i am a better window cleaner than anyone else.

[ftp]

I think Davids in a different bracket to the rest of us. I believe he actively chases his work through tenders etc and gains work through his qualifications and goes for the big commercial stuff. I can see why advertising would be pointless for him. You could have the best branding in the world but without the right credentials you won't get that type of work.
I'm interested to know why your branding is so expensive?
I spent £60 on some signwriting and that's it i think, apart from £30 for some Thompson Local lookalike.

[matt]

ref value

my ron thompson zensorflex pole, 20 quid and its 2 years old

now thats value for money 

[NWH]

But how much has it cost you!

Ewan if your doing normal domestic houses forget fishing poles.

[Clive McDonald]

Now i'm agreeing with Ewan.


Yes ftp you are right about dave.

Do you have a strap line ftp?

[matt]

But how much has it cost you!

Ewan if your doing normal domestic houses forget fishing poles.

why ? ? ? ?

on 2nd thoughts, i cannot be bothered why

[elite mike]

But how much has it cost you!

about £18  bargain or what ,aay   matt
 
ewan
and no once you have a system, it will not slow you down

[ftp]

Now i'm agreeing with Ewan.


Yes ftp you are right about dave.

Do you have a strap line ftp?

Strap line? What's that?