[elite mike]

But how much has it cost you!

about £18  bargain or what ,aay   matt
 
ewan
and no once you have a system, it will not slow you down

I take it you mean a system of working with this type of pole, but will a similar system working with a telescopic be quicker?

i have both ewan

and i prefer the mods, except on gutters or facias

then its back to the teles

[ftp]

No strap line for me.

[matt]

Don’t mean to upset you matt, I have never used a fishing pole for window cleaning but I image they would take a little more time to use. So over a good length of time it will end up costing you money in lost revenue.

Will it?

as you have been polite and i dont think you have posted just for a argument

i used to use a telescopic pole, for over 4 years, the first day with the modular was slower, but after the first day i honeslty can say i am quicker, its very easy to use and its so light ( thus less fatigue )

i have my pole in 3 sections

the base section is 6 & 1/2 ft ( ish ) long
the middle section is 6 & 1/2 ft ( ish ) long
the brush end is about 3 ft long ( just right for downstairs )

start house, slot in brush to middle then middle to end ( just slots in, no clamps to undo and then tighten up )

do front upstairs
lower pole and remove brush section
clean downstairs front

walk around side, if any upstairs side windows, put together pole, clean any upstairs on the side, then around and clean upstairs rear

drop down pole and take apart and clean downstairs with short pole

i really done get the idea that its slow, you have no clamps to undo and then tighten back up

it really is easy and quick, but saying that the knockers will allways knock it

[Clive McDonald]

In the end reduced my branding message to a strap line, you know, like the ice cream van that says =often licked, never beaten.


I see you and dave have it down to two words- go away-

[Jeff Brimble]

Because a mod pole is lighter its also easier and faster to clean a window which compensates for the slightly longer assembly time, dis- assembly is faster than a telescopic.

[EZclean]

if i could find a way of carrying the sections of my f/pole better than in a bundle under my arm, i could get quicker.
 maybe a quiver of some kind like robin hood  

[elite mike]

hi jeff  

good night everyone  

[matt]

if i could find a way of carrying the sections of my f/pole better than in a bundle under my arm, i could get quicker.
 maybe a quiver of some kind like robin hood  

for domestic you only need the 3 sections of pole ( well its 5 sections, but they are glued in pairs )

i just carry the brush section and pull along my cart and then in the other hand the other 2 sections

[elite mike]

if i could find a way of carrying the sections of my f/pole better than in a bundle under my arm, i could get quicker.
 maybe a quiver of some kind like robin hood  

for domestic you only need the 3 sections of pole ( well its 5 sections, but they are glued in pairs )

i just carry the brush section and pull along my cart and then in the other hand the other 2 sections

i just strap the sections to the trolly take and replace when necessary

[elite mike]

this will start you of then ewan

http://www.mullarkeys.co.uk/fishing/poles-and-accessories/carp-and-match-fishing-poles/0/ron-thompson/7389/

definitely goodnight now

[EZclean]

Thanks for taking the time to explain matt, I think I am going to try it myself in the next few weeks.

Pole about £20
Brush £20
Adjustable neck £5
Hose, connector £5
Total (about) £50 for 15ft pole?

i bought the Ron Thompson Gangster from cheshire fishing, £60 plus 6.50 post.
its an 11m pole and i unscrew the angle and brush from my harris and screw onto top sectio of fishing pole. i have the pole hose taped on ready to push into the y connector

[EZclean]

http://www.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/rthompson/poles.htm

good for 3 stories

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Matt I wouldn't use a cheap fishing pole as fishing poles are like WFPs the cheap ones are flimsy and only made from fibre glass which is thin.
My fishing pole cost more than my WFP lol £600 for a fishing pole.
why use something that is not designed for that purpose.
We see threads on here calling cowboys and how people dress for work and their methods of cleaning.
One thing that I would of thought would lose custom is looking and acting unprofessional.
We are all businessmen aren't we?
You have to invest in your business for it to make money.
A few moan about how much this costs and how much that costs. Just be glad your not a builder with all the tools they have.
Just be glad your not in another prefession that requires alot more capital and has extremely higher monthly overheads.
I have spent thousands and thousands this year, I don't moan about it as I know I need them for my job.

[EZclean]

its a proven pole though is the zensorflex, and the gangster is strong,but it is carbon

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Fishing poles are designed for fishing, using elastic and nylon line.
you wouldn't use a cricket bat to play tennis would you.

[matt]

Matt I wouldn't use a cheap fishing pole as fishing poles are like WFPs the cheap ones are flimsy and only made from fibre glass which is thin.

you say the pole is flimsy and thin, yet mine has lasted 2 years now, not bad going

why use something that is not designed for that purpose.

because we can, they are really light and work well

We see threads on here calling cowboys and how people dress for work and their methods of cleaning.

yes and they are rubbish, tonight we have seen a post about a 200 GPD being for fish keeping and not suitable for WFP, doesnt mean its right

One thing that I would of thought would lose custom is looking and acting unprofessional.

do your customers care what pole you use ? ? ? ? as mine are only interested in clean windows, next we will have the discussion "you need a van, otherwise people will think you are a cowboy

We are all businessmen aren't we?

i have a business, yes

You have to invest in your business for it to make money.

the cost isnt a issue, show me a pole thats as light as the RT fishing pole , i have used the SLX and its not as light

A few moan about how much this costs and how much that costs. Just be glad your not a builder with all the tools they have.

i have thousands of pounds worth of carpenter / building gear in my garage and loft space, my cordless drill cost me 450 quid, i have a router with a selection of bits that cost more than that, it didnt mean i did a better job that the guy who had a cheap B&D drill and a 40 quid router

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just because people buy the expensive gear, doesnt make them better businessman, doesnt make the windows cleaner

think outside the box on the odd occasion 

[ftp]

I used one for a year - buggered if i was going to part with £600 just to look professional.  

A Zensorflex looks very similar to an S2 anyway and so does the Gangsta the only difference to the untrained eye would be the sticker on the base section!

[matt]

I used one for a year - buggered if i was going to part with £600 just to look professional.  

A Zensorflex looks very similar to an S2 anyway and so does the Gangsta the only difference to the untrained eye would be the sticker on the base section!

you forgot it doesnt glitter and shine in the sun

[ftp]

How many customers have you lost Matt who say "I'm not having you clean my windows because that pole looks unprofessional"?

[matt]

How many customers have you lost Matt who say "I'm not having you clean my windows because that pole looks unprofessional"?

funny enough, none

they are only interested in clean windows and a person who is honest and will not rob them blind