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John Hewitt

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Backpacks
« on: July 02, 2009, 02:49:47 pm »
Hi. regarding my backpack and trolleys I have been selling for some time both from my website and ebay. If anyone has wondered why my trade mark has disappeared it is because someone else owns the words "Reach"  and  "Wash" so I cant use them in my advertising. Perhaps they are being "Ironic" in trying to squash the small man: but whatever the reason I hope no-one objects to me using this forum to set the record straight.
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jouk45

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2009, 03:14:19 pm »
john if you are interested i own a name that is just as good as reach and wash, am selling it, would be perfect for a supplier of wfp products, email me if interested
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Ian W

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 04:47:33 pm »
It's a silly situation John. Have you got access to a legal team through an organisation like the FSB? They might be able to help.
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EZclean

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 06:47:20 pm »
john you are reach2wash, ignore them its a completely different word and description, i cant see that ever standing in court or even getting there.
so they own the "&" bit.  ::)
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jouk45

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 07:40:11 pm »
  ;D
FOR SALE
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John Hewitt

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 08:38:07 pm »
A friend suggested the logo "Up Yours".    Regarding the legal aspect of the name can someone really own a name which includes such common words as Reach and Wash which is after all what many window cleaners refer to as the service they are offering. To me it is a bit like Hoover registering "vacuum cleaner" and saying it is theirs
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dai

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 08:46:02 pm »
Reach and clean sounds just as good.
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matt

Re: Backpacks
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 08:49:08 pm »
watch it

as we will soon have

" i own a ironics system, i paid alot of money for it, so the name should be protected from peasants like you lot "

watch this space, they normally arrive

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matt

Re: Backpacks
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 08:53:26 pm »
i got asked on tuesday

" excuse me, are you a window washer "

its the first time i have ever heard that phrase used
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bad trippy

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 10:21:35 pm »
Who has told you to stop using your trade name? Have you ironicly had a letter from a brief?
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matt

Re: Backpacks
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2009, 10:34:08 pm »
Quote from: Ewan on July 02, 2009, 08:58:30 pm
Same thing with an American twist

she was a russian gangsters wife  ;)
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John Hewitt

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2009, 08:36:27 am »
 
  Can I clarify things a bit
 
Ebay pulled all my adverts  It would appear that ebay didnt even check as my logo and wording is obviously not that of Ionics but I do use the words "reach"   and "wash"  I considered it a generic name for wfp.

This is the letter from Ionics

"I am going to have all of your listings with the words Reach2Wash removed from ebay. Reach & Wash is a registered trademark of Ionic Systems Ltd, changing the & to a 2 is passing off under our trademark and is not allowed. I must also insist that you destroy all of the Reach2Wash stickers that you have on your equipment."


I have thought of a logo with a little cartoon guy holding his pole up and the words UP YOURS across his back but I dont think Ionics would see the joke.
I'm glad I dont take life as seriously as Jason Mawlam although he did send his regards at the end of his letter. That was nice wasn't it?

 
 
 
 
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bad trippy

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2009, 09:27:27 am »
Well John im not bothered what sticker you have on your stuff, im eagerly awaiting my trolley/backpack combo that i ordered from you this week, im hopeing its gonna be here today woooooooo
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EZclean

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2009, 11:02:45 pm »
it's a joke
my mate got the same letter, he goes by reach'n'wash
he doesn't use the wfp man Logo that ironics designed or any logo for that matter. and in no way is that "passing off"
this guys obviously out to protect there 'brand' just like some window cleaners will "threaten" violence against someone canvasing their work.

if he's that bothered about "passing off" he'll go to court. but they know there aint know chance a judge will do anything about reach2wash reach'n'wash or any other kind of reachwash derivitive.
just like coca cola, pepsi cola, panda cola, hell what about rola cola
in lidl the other day they have there own corn flakes, honey nuts flakes, rice crisps, wheatbiscs,   ::)
you get the idea,
 
you keep going John and put Ebay right if they remove any items.
and ignore this fool



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NWH

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2009, 11:25:25 pm »
Up and Wash that made me LMAO,i`ve got some fresh air if you wanna buy some lol. ;D ;D
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jouk45

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2009, 11:38:43 pm »
Quote from: NWH on July 03, 2009, 11:25:25 pm
Up and Wash that made me LMAO,i`ve got some fresh air if you wanna buy some lol. ;D ;D
well it got your attention  ;D if it was promoted enough, it can just be as good as reach and wash
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