[Timmy Boy]

Hi all
Cleaned a carpet last friday that is in the offices to a flapjack factory. The carpet is covered in margarine and has been trodden in over a period of about a year. I used to clean it every 2 months but they cut budgets and have asked to come back in. I pre sprayed with Chemspec preclean enzyme spray, brushed in and extracted with F&F rinse (truckmount). I hit the carpet 4 times, although the blacktop has gone and it looks better, it still looks a real mess. Any ideas as I have got to go back this friday to try again
Thanks in advance
Tim

[C A Payne]

tim, i don't know if this method is any use to you... when i've done resturant/pub carpets, i use a product called 'enzo-soil one', its an in tank & pre-spray (powder), aggitate with a slow speed floor machine, & that cuts through the grease & black top, & then extract it off... charlie

[Ricky M]

Charlie is your little slogan " we got lumps of it round the back " off Black adder 2
scene from the execution dungeon with ploppy and son of ploppy

[daysdeepclean]

It's from "Monty Python's Meaning of Life".... 

[C A Payne]

sorry lads your both wrong! it twas from 'the life of brian' i've always loved that saying, it always makes me chuckle.... i remember ploppi son of ploppi too, makes me laugh too! charlie

[daysdeepclean]

Oh dear, how frightfully embarassing!

[Timmy Boy]

Hi Charlie
Thanks for the response, who makes enzo-soil one? Is it similar to enzall?
Regards
Tim

[John Kelly]

Tim, margarine is primarily vegetable oil. How long did you leave the pre spray to dwell as the enzymes do need time to work. I think Enzall would be better.
Or I would hit it with a hot high alkaline pre-spray.

[clinton]

Charlie

Think i had some of that a while back given as a sample

I thought it was black adder too

[Timmy Boy]

I sprayed it down using an inline sprayer and the concentrated mix was hot when I put it in the presprayer. In regards to agitation I used the broom, but I will be returning with my envirodry machine. I tried testing an area with some hydramaster grease breaker as it says you can apply this as a spotter. Although it broke down the grease, the carpet went lighter than the rest! The other problem is that they are Low profile carpet tiles.

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

Timmy, I would forget the fibre and fabric rinse and use a highish pH product  with the TM, you can always mist with acid rinse at the end if you are worried about pH.

Dwell time is very important with thick grease , so spray early.

Cheers

Doug

[robert meldrum]

Sounds like a Ferrari bye product

[Timmy Boy]

thanks Doug
What would you suggest, I've got some carpetclean XL in the garage, do you think that is more up to the job (PH 9.5)
Regards
Tim

[John Kelly]

Higher ph12-13

[C A Payne]

this sounds like a job for "CHAMPION"  by craftex, its great on grease, oils, grime, tar & very heavy traffic... ph 13.5... costs about £8.95 for 5lts... enzo-soil one is distributed by amtechuk.biz. regards charlie

[richie]

Get the job done right & use Prochem Power Burst.  If you aggitate it even better,  rinse extract with acid rinse.  The results im sure will be 1st class.

Richie.

[Mike Osbourne]

Sounds like a Champion job.

Hope you charge them more than it works out to do it on your old schedule.

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys,

Timmy , Champion must be stacked with sodium hydroxide to be pH 13.5, it will be effective on fat but will be corrosive and difficult to neutralise.

Powerburst in pH 11.5, I think ,which as pH is logarithmic scale is 100 times less alkaline than Champion (but the amount of buffering will also be a factor).

I would try Powerburst first but it would be an interesting experiment to try both.

Cheers

Doug

[Simon@arenaclean]

I had a really bad pub carpet and rinsed with prochems double clean after powerburst. Did a super job! Agitation is the key. Spray with FF rince/acidic rinse afterwards. If you have a bonnet system you could bonnet after double clean prior to acidic rinse spray, or if you get it dry enough why not extract again with rinse and finish with a bonnet. This is really restoration work and you should charge properly for your time. Then impress apon them the logic of regular and cheaper cleans

Simon

[Timmy Boy]

Thanks all
I've just ordered some enzall (sounds like I dont need it now - Damn!), I have powerburst and double clean in the garage so I shall give it a whirl. So my plan is prespray with powerburst, agitate with envirodry, rinse extract with double clean, bonnet and then mist with F&F. I will let you know how it goes.
Regards
Tim