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Peter Fogwill

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2009, 02:17:41 pm »
Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.

Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole.  Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.

Peter



What do you mean Peter? I use one pole, one trigger for all my jobs?

What is the weight of the salmon brush without the Autobrush assembly?

The bare brush is 312g

Mike 108 has 4 poles and I assume he needs different sizes of poles, because of having a trigger fitted to each one.

If using the one pole then the trigger would need to be taken off every time you wanted to add or take away sections.  The trigger also has the disadvantage of having pole hose between the trigger and the top of the pole to allow for the pole to extend, this can get in the way and caught on things.  If you take a look at the picture in the previous page you will see hose coming down from the left hand side of the trigger, this section of hose would have to be 18 foot long for an 18 foot pole, and 40 foot long for a 40 foot pole.  Now when you are moving around with the pole the hose gets in the way.

The idea of the Autobrush is to eliminate such problems, and it does completely.  Yes a trigger may be a way to save water but it brings along another set of problems.  I personally played around with triggers and if there were no problems then there would be no Autobrush.   The new Autobrush saves water and adds no problems.  Yes it may be a bit more expensive than an ordinary brush, but you get far more in return.

Peter




JSMC

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2009, 03:50:23 pm »
so this autobrush system is it a trigger type system for controlling water flow

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2009, 03:57:39 pm »
so this autobrush system is it a trigger type system for controlling water flow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1V7uQd-mDY

Peter

JSMC

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2009, 04:50:17 pm »
so this autobrush system is it a trigger type system for controlling water flow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1V7uQd-mDY

Peter

doesn't tell ye much that does it. what is it's purpose and how is it worked etc

jouk45

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2009, 05:28:26 pm »

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2009, 05:47:28 pm »
Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.

Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole.  Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.

Peter



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The bare brush is 312g


You dont know about the Super-lite brush then? it weighs 260g and is made for window cleaning unlike the salmon

Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2009, 05:48:09 pm »
watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrrpH68eKOU

The only problem with that video is that the Autobrush has been improved quite considerably since then.  

Peter

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2009, 05:50:59 pm »
Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.

Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole.  Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.

Peter



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The bare brush is 312g


You dont know about the Super-lite brush then? it weighs 260g and is made for window cleaning unlike the salmon



Is that Alex's new white bristle brush?  If so the brush I use is I think 15gms lighter.  I weighed one two weeks ago while fitting the Autobrush mechanism on it.

Peter

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2009, 06:06:20 pm »
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Is that Alex's new white bristle brush?  If so the brush I use is I think 15gms lighter.  I weighed one two weeks ago while fitting the Autobrush mechanism on it.

How can it be lighter, yours is 312g, Alex's brush is 260g ( the heavier version is 270g ) ? Would be interested if it is though! Can you post a picture of it Peter?
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2009, 06:10:49 pm »
Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.

Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole.  Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.

Peter



Quote
The bare brush is 312g


You dont know about the Super-lite brush then? it weighs 260g and is made for window cleaning unlike the salmon


The Autobrush is much more than just a Salmon brush, and it was made for window cleaning hence the reason for the valve for turning the water on and off, and the fan sprays fitted.  Sometimes you don't need things made specially for a certain trade, as sometimes what is available is perfect for the job, with a little modification.  

Peter

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2009, 06:16:46 pm »
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Is that Alex's new white bristle brush?  If so the brush I use is I think 15gms lighter.  I weighed one two weeks ago while fitting the Autobrush mechanism on it.

How can it be lighter, yours is 312g, Alex's brush is 260g ( the heavier version is 270g ) ? Would be interested if it is though! Can you post a picture of it Peter?

The 312g is before I have drilled any holes or taken away a row of bristles.  I did weigh both of them a couple of weeks ago, and although there was very little in it, mines was lighter.  I will post a pic later.

Peter

Robin Ray

Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2009, 06:22:14 pm »
The superlight is is definately lighter than the salmon. Just weighed mine and its 220g.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2009, 06:22:34 pm »
ooh cool!! get a pic up
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2009, 08:18:08 pm »
The superlight is is definately lighter than the salmon. Just weighed mine and its 220g.

There seems to be quite a difference in the weights mentioned.  Is the brush your talking about the Bentley type brush, or the one with the white bristles?  The Salmon brush has a few different designs.

Peter

NWH

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2009, 08:31:27 pm »
The Tucker is a light brush but when you compare the SL brush to it it feels heavy.

Rogue Trader

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2009, 08:48:59 pm »
Peter ,

1.can i just buy the mechanism with instructions to fit to another brush

2.do you supply the autobrush with pencil jets?

Matt

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2009, 09:49:02 pm »
Peter ,

1.can i just buy the mechanism with instructions to fit to another brush

2.do you supply the autobrush with pencil jets?

Matt

Yes to both Matt, but I prefer to fit it to the brush myself, so as I know it is setup properly.

Peter

RPCCS

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2009, 09:50:33 pm »
 I had two autobrush swiches and both broke, they either wouldn't turn the water on or wouldn't turn it off, I did away with it in the end and now use a trigger, as Peter says though the pole hose is a pain getting caught on things
Cheers Rich

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2009, 09:57:52 pm »
I had two autobrush swiches and both broke, they either wouldn't turn the water on or wouldn't turn it off, I did away with it in the end and now use a trigger, as Peter says though the pole hose is a pain getting caught on things

How long ago was that Rich?  A while ago I was getting quite a few problems with switches, but since changing the position of the switch on the brush, and the metal toggles instead of the plastic ones, I seem to have a very reliable product now.  They would have been under guarantee if you had them less than a year, and you could have sent them back for repair or replacement.

Peter

RPCCS

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Re: Auto-Brush... any good?
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2009, 10:13:29 pm »
I had two autobrush swiches and both broke, they either wouldn't turn the water on or wouldn't turn it off, I did away with it in the end and now use a trigger, as Peter says though the pole hose is a pain getting caught on things

How long ago was that Rich?  A while ago I was getting quite a few problems with switches, but since changing the position of the switch on the brush, and the metal toggles instead of the plastic ones, I seem to have a very reliable product now.  They would have been under guarantee if you had them less than a year, and you could have sent them back for repair or replacement.

Peter
I did get a replacement from you Peter, but sadly it went the same way as the 1st one. The stuff I got from you was purchased January 2008. The switch was the metal toggle type too.
Cheers Rich