[bad trippy]

Was just wondering why so many of you guys clean the tops with the wfp system but do the bottoms trad?

[kenaltobelli]

save water ; peace of mind; just easyer with custys

[bad trippy]

when you do the bottoms trad do you use fairy or just pure water?

[Niall McAllister]

i don't get why you would spend all the money on a system that should speed up the job, and then not use it to its fullest. if you have all the equipment out anyway why not use it

[matt]

i allways used to

the same reasons as kenaltobelli

though mainly it was just to break the customers into the WFP idea, after i changed a well established trad round into WFP, WFP was all about safety for me, not earning more money, i did that for over 5 years and it worked well

i have since got a tank for the van ( thus i can carry more water ) i allways used to do all the conservs with WFP aswell, the customer loves the idea of the frames being done, last year i changed to ALL WFP, am i any faster, not much, does the customer mind, some have said they prefere it done trad ( for these i have said, give it a few cleans and if you still want it trad, then i will ) as it really makes no difference to me

ref what do i used, i use PURE WATER with GG3, it works well, and when you decide if your going to do WFP down aswell, just wipe over the frames the clean before

[matt]

i don't get why you would spend all the money on a system that should speed up the job, and then not use it to its fullest. if you have all the equipment out anyway why not use it

400 - 600 quid isnt all that money  ?? ?

for me it was the safety side of it, nothing more, nothing less

[Niall McAllister]

400 - 600 quid isnt all that money  ?? ?

for me it was the safety side of it, nothing more, nothing less

wish i was that well off

[kenaltobelli]

i have windows no mater how much water you chuck at them they dont clean wfp
so i use the old fairy on them.
god knows why the tops clean up also its easyer than messing about with 6 ft pole trying to get in the corners.

[WISEOWL]

I started WFP in August and was approx 99% WFP.

Then I went to 90%, then to 85%

Now I WFP upstairs front, downstairs front but trad conservatorys and patio doors. I would say I am 70% to 80% WFP and always have the mop and blade ready for when I need it.

WFP is a tool not a magic wand, use what you have to to get the job done right, faster, safer and with more money in your pocket.

[Sir Squeaky]

save water ; peace of mind; just easyer with custys

I do on some, for the same reasons.

Also, if I do them all my battery is flat by 12pm.

[pingu]

Squeek how can you run a battery flat by midday....are you using AA's?

[dd]

Just carry a spare battery!?!

[foxy]

wfp is faster and safer than ladders but does not do as good a job as trad; especially on highly soiled windows + it tends to leave water spots/marks. ground floor windows are better cleaned trad, a decent pole can get the 1st floor windows as well.

[WCE]

wfp is faster and safer than ladders but does not do as good a job as trad; especially on highly soiled windows + it tends to leave water spots/marks. ground floor windows are better cleaned trad, a decent pole can get the 1st floor windows as well.

Rubbish it can do a better job than trad if used right. Most problems are down to operator error.

[foxy]

that's my considered opinion, there are many people don't rate the job that wfp do; there's a lot of marketing hype and vested interests.

[dave0123]

The only reason i do trad bottoms is because i have a lad workes for me which he pops round doing all bottoms. Unless there leaded then i will wfp them

[NWH]

save water ; peace of mind; just easyer with custys

I do on some, for the same reasons.

Also, if I do them all my battery is flat by 12pm.

Just piggy back another leisure battery to cure that problem it`ll never go flat again,a lot of people think that because they have a split charger there batterys never need charging there wrong.The split charger only puts back a trickle of charge that will allow you to use a 12v pump for ages without problems if you use hot water like i do the batterys need charging every 10 days or so otherwise the voltage will drop down to anything between 9-11volts.

[NWH]

that's my considered opinion, there are many people don't rate the job that wfp do; there's a lot of marketing hype and vested interests.

That opinion is dated now and normally the excuse trad WC`s give when asked why they`ve never changed over,to be honest with you a lot of customers new and old now expect WFP as the normal way to clean windows they all know we live in a nanny state so why not live up to it and use it to our benefit.

[Oakley Windows]

Squeek how can you run a battery flat by midday....are you using AA's?

Some people justify poor business practise with mal-practise, mate .   

Squeaky, get a new battery that holds its charge.


Anyway, the topic in hand. I do 98% of my work WFP now and if a new customer asks if its just the tops that I do with the pole I explain my kit cost about 6 grand why would I only want it to fulfill half its potential?

[NWH]

Squeek how can you run a battery flat by midday....are you using AA's?

Some people justify poor business practise with mal-practise, mate .   

Squeaky, get a new battery that holds its charge.

A slpit charger still won`t allow to fully hold it`s charge,i`ve run a battery for over a year on a split charger and it will power a pump as it dosen`t zap to many amps but run a heater aswell and it will flatten them.