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Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2009, 08:21:19 pm »
My best guess it's a Kerman c.1930 but I could be very wrong. ;D

Dennis

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Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2009, 08:24:27 pm »
A guide to rugs from Kayam, explains borders, motifs, history etc. (right click and save as)

http://www.carpetcleaningcompany.co.uk/rugs.pdf

Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2009, 10:53:24 pm »
Nice one Dennis


Roger Koh

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Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2009, 01:41:03 am »
This Persian rug is either a “Sarouk” or a “Lilihan”.

“Sarouk” has an overall detached floral in banquet form, medallion and corner pattern for older design.

As for “Lilihan” generally has an overall floral, small medallion with flowers, leaf and ornamental designs.

Either of these two names fit the description depending on how the interpretation goes.

Lilihan is in what used to be called the Kemereh district.

Lilihan is the common term for the rugs of the region.

This rug is in the Hamadan weave and uses the Symetrical knot.

The rugs tend to be similar to Sarouk in color style and thickness.

A Sarouk Rug is a type of Persian rug from the province of Arak.

Lilihans tend to have longer pile which is more attractive for colder regions.

So you can decide which description fits the rug in question better.

And you can't be very far from being wrong!

Persian rug is now only my second love; my first love goes to leather.

It was from the cleaning of fine Persian rugs that I inevitably have to clean luxurious leathers well too.

Fine Persian rugs and luxurious leathers are like Siamese twins that go hand in hand in most high-end homes.

One is incomplete without the other; so when you see one, you see the other too!

Believe what I say?

Roger Koh
Leather Doctor®
Institute of Inspection, Cleaning and Restoration Certification #942
Leather Care Technician
Master Textile Cleaner
Master Fire & Smoke Restorer
Journeyman Water Restorer
Since 1973

robert meldrum

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Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2009, 06:34:36 am »
Roger (Wilkopeadia) difficult NOT to believe that description Roger. Personally, I know zero about oriental rugs other than ; -

They cost a fortune
They are prone to colour loss

John Kelly

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Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2009, 08:24:24 am »
Roger thats good but as said a lot of these are copies produced in Pakistan.

derek west

Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2009, 08:47:10 am »
i know how to clean them safely, isn't that all we need to know?
derek

John Kelly

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Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2009, 09:12:28 am »
Of cause it is Derek, but you can be a clever poope if you swot up and tell the customer exactly what they have.

Ricky M

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Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2009, 11:51:19 am »
John on the swot up side I agree even your just close or in some cases if it sounds good the client will pay £15-£40 sq mtr.
Im on my 1st book of 4 to read and its bloody diff trying to rem .
www.ability1975.co.uk
                          www.carpetcleaninguttoxeter.co.uk  
              NCCA !? but why have non of my clients herd of them ??

richy27

Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2009, 04:34:41 pm »
my mother has one similar bought from turkey

John Gregory

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Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2009, 05:21:24 pm »
Spot on Richard customer thinks it came from Turkey. its been passed down the family from great grand mother  , there are a couple of similer rugs that my customers family have got , Job done for customer and paid It wound be nice if I could give them info on there rugs


Thanks  John

richy27

Re: Can anyone help identify this Rug
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2009, 03:07:27 pm »
reason i said from turkey is i spent an sfternoon in a rug factory in turkey and picked one up for mum. thing is with turkish ruga they all stick to this bordered patern round the outside and rarely do you see fringes round the edge plus they all seem to have this nice sheen to them