[Darren O]

Got a chinese restraunt to do tomorow its got a bit of blacktop on it whats the best prespray to use ive got Chemspec Enzall,Blitz and was going to buy some Prochem Powerburst to just wanted to no whats the best out the three.Never had great results on blacktop i dont think the prespray was hot enough when ive done them before.cheers Darren.

[Paul Simpson]

No experience of the other 2 but used powerburst on restaurant blacktop and it worked for me, make sure it is hot with alot of agitation, I found it easier cleaning in small sections before it has a chance to dry out, another quick misting before wanding if it does dry too much.
 

[clinton]

Darren

Try a rotary first on the areas to get rid and break down the black top

[Joe H]

Clinton

Is that a rotary with a brush on or straight to a pad?

[clinton]

Joe

Prob just use a pad as its the main traffic area and might be a little warn under the grease then maybe the soft brush after

[markpowell]

My choice would be Powerbusrt pre-spray hot, agitate with rotary machine or sebo duo if you have one, 10 mins dwell then rinse. Blitz will do the job in the same way, it is a good product but imo Powerburst is better.
Mark

[derek west]

what sort of carpet it is?
derek

[Darren O]

Its a wool carpet the taffic lanes are quite bad and sticky and theres black top were the bar is iam going to use  Blitz as a prespray then  use rotary with brush on it then rinse with F90 but i stll want to buy some  Powerburst heard good things about it.

[Joe H]

How about this for a restaurant clean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoIGA5AYP2s

This machine runs on a portable or TM but I suspect the more powerful the porty the better ie in air/vac and psi

[markpowell]

Its a wool carpet the taffic lanes are quite bad and sticky and theres black top were the bar is iam going to use  Blitz as a prespray then  use rotary with brush on it then rinse with F90 but i stll want to buy some  Powerburst heard good things about it.

Dont forget to do a bleed test prior to cleaning, you may need to use an acidic rinse.
Mark

[Dave_Lee]

If its black topped I dont think you have to go the acid rinse route, they just want it clean. Go in all guns blazing, its not the time to worry about wool and Ph factors. That black top is doing more harm to the carpet than you ever could, using solutions that might be otherwise classed as not good for wool, just get it off!
Dave.

[Hilton]

Before your hit it with bucket loads of water and high ph solutions, check its not a BW as Chinese/Indian carpets tend to be on the cheap side.

Vacuum,
Pre-spray, what ever suits (M-Power very good on Black Top)
Roto with brush block (pad won't touch it) on black top,
Clear water rinse off.
Repeat
(except vacuum)


 

[gwrightson]

En zall always for me , dont worry about ph it is not going to bother a restraunt carpet, as Dave said all guns blazing.

m.power    yor having a laugh arnt you Hilton

Geoff

[derek west]

it can't be a BW if its wool, i'd still be concerned if its a woven carpet as these can shrink if the backing gets wet, plus a high PH can cause the jute backing to bleed, hence the acid rince. i'd still use a high ph but keep psi to around 300, some agitation on the black top should loosen it. this is how i'd go about it but it
could be the wrong way though.
derek

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

This is where enzyme products come into their own with all those protein bonds mixed with fat.

Make you you extract well and give it a good half an hour dwell.

Cheers

Doug

[Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)]

Powerburst for me.

If it is wool then I wouldn't be too worried about ph etc for the reasons above. Ditto shrinkage. However as somebody said they can very often be BWs.

Hence the need for proper survey.

By the way Darren (and this is supposed to be a funny comment not a get-at-you) what is a Rest-a-RUNT?

Sounds like a cc trying to use a bad Chinese accent.

[Darren O]

Just noticed my spelling was in a hurry this morning not to bothered with shrinkage or colour run ive done a lot of restraunts"is that how you spell it"never had a problem its only the blacktop that i struggle with done another chinese before christmass and couldnt get all the blacktop of and i used Enzall but the water was only warm at best ive checked with the owner today and he said there would be plenty of hot water also its just been bought over and dosent open till saturday so i can try a few things on it to i get it right.

[Hilton]

We have cleaned shed loads of these restaurants and used M-Power on a good many , no problem so long as you know how to use it and they clean up fine.

I'll invite Geoff along on the next one to see how its done properly    using a product like m-power or nemesis, without the need for hot water as in a lot of these restaurants as we all know hot water runs out very quickly.Hence the need for a plan B like the products mentioned above.

I know it cant be a BW IF its wool, but I would carry out the necessary to make sure.I am sure as Darren says hes cleaned plenty that he knows the difference.

By the way, if its wool why wouldn' t you be worried about ph or shrinkage ?
seems like a recipe (excuse the pun) for disaster.

[stuart_clark]

I have used m Power mixed at 80 to 1 and got exellent results with it through my chemstractor and brush certainly as good as enzall and I have used a lot of both products

[Darren O]

Ive actually shrunk a BW before it was about 4 years ago when i first started it was nothing dramatic like coming of the grippers and shrinking before my eyes got a phone call the next day the customer said the carpet has came away from one side of the room.Went back with a carpet fitter and stretched it back carpet fitter said it wasnt fitted right in the first place but i always keep an eye out for them now.