[wcs.]

So many have different views on price they often forget the other “value”

This thread is not about cost, but how do you determine price (and value.)

[bonsey]

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[Clive McDonald]

He's talking about good advice, it costs nothing and is immensely valuable.Ask away Ewan.......


Okay, business of any kind is all about adding value. You just have to find a way to do it. In wc terms I do this by using mechanisation, machines and systems to do all my work.

This means george for the admin, systems-slips- and full use of the internet for collecting, and hot water and an electric reel to minimise the physical side. I don't even need to come up with my own ideas. i've got this place.

There's a satisfaction from doing things extremely well that goes beyond price.

[Clive McDonald]

Not sure how relevant this is but when I started wc i was way out of my comfort zone and pretty much hated it. It was hard doing what felt like groveling (door knocking), when I was already a proven success in another field. I think now though that this humilation is necessary in any venture early on if you are to achieve later success ( i'd managed to conveniently forget that i had been like a fish out of water when I had started my other thing too.)

I'm at ease now though, which is probably a bad thing. I used to ache like anything, and when I read high earning posts I didn't see how it was possible. My customers were always complianing no matter how hard I tried.

I don't ache now, the customers seem to like me and my views on earnings are now to hit an ambitous target (I said target not that i'm achieving this and I very often have to work saturdays).


 my impression is that I am not alone in this.

[Tosh]

Not sure how relevant this is but when I started wc i was way out of my comfort zone and pretty much hated it. It was hard doing what felt like groveling (door knocking), when I was already a proven success in another field. I think now though that this humilation is necessary in any venture early on if you are to achieve later success ( i'd managed to conveniently forget that i had been like a fish out of water when I had started my other thing too.)

I'm at ease now though, which is probably a bad thing. I used to ache like anything, and when I read high earning posts I didn't see how it was possible. My customers were always complianing no matter how hard I tried.

I don't ache now, the customers seem to like me and my views on earnings are now to target 1.5k weekly (I said target not that i'm achieving this and I very often have to work saturdays).


I'll probably modify this post to take the earnings out but my impression is that I am not alone in this.

So you've been cleaning windows since April this year and now you can earn £1.5K a week; though sometimes you have to work Saturdays to achieve this!

And you're based in the Midlands.

Are you being honest now?

[CLEANGLASSUK]

Tosh - he said that 1.5k was his target,he didnt say he was getting that.

[Tosh]

Tosh - he said that 1.5k was his target,he didnt say he was getting that.

Well, not exactly, Discount said:

and my views on earnings are now to target 1.5k weekly (I said target not that i'm achieving this and I very often have to work saturdays).

So his target is 1.5K per week, and that he's not always achieving this and has to work Saturdays; implying he can't do the £1.5 Mon to Fri.

That's how I read it.

But okay, maybe he's only doing £1K per week; not bad for a n00b who started in April last year; not bad at all.

 

[dmlservices]

Not sure how relevant this is but when I started wc i was way out of my comfort zone and pretty much hated it. It was hard doing what felt like groveling (door knocking), when I was already a proven success in another field. I think now though that this humilation is necessary in any venture early on if you are to achieve later success ( i'd managed to conveniently forget that i had been like a fish out of water when I had started my other thing too.)

I'm at ease now though, which is probably a bad thing. I used to ache like anything, and when I read high earning posts I didn't see how it was possible. My customers were always complianing no matter how hard I tried.

I don't ache now, the customers seem to like me and my views on earnings are now to hit an ambitous target (I said target not that i'm achieving this and I very often have to work saturdays).


 my impression is that I am not alone in this.

if you were already a sucess in another field,

why did you start window cleaning? 

daz

[Clive McDonald]

Thats what I don't understand guys that have been going a few years and drive round in bangers and bragg about forty pound poles.

I remember you saying you were skint and had no one to lend off and things had gotten better, well I admire that. I respect hard work, but you should have pressed home your advantage. there are three, arent there, one canes it like myself but keeps his mouth mostly shut, another is a loser by nature but is starting to break the habit and earn a few bob despite his idiotic ideas, then yourself.Nice bloke, good poster, even better at windups, good wc, starting to get a good biz. But held back by disgruntlement at officer class (me?) and no idea about potential.

I might have known you'd save and paste it, I said i'd modify it because i agree with what's said about the many startups. I was trying to be frank with ewan not start world war three.

[simonwonder]

with the client in view
price is what they pay you
value is what they receive  

[dmlservices]

There are lots or reason’s why somebody changes career, the obvious one is money.

The threads about something else, interested to here other’s views on this, if you have one.

i,m still trying to work out what thereads about  

daz

[Tosh]

Thats what I don't understand guys that have been going a few years and drive round in bangers and bragg about forty pound poles.

I remember you saying you were skint and had no one to lend off and things had gotten better, well I admire that. I respect hard work, but you should have pressed home your advantage. there are three, arent there, one canes it like myself but keeps his mouth mostly shut, another is a loser by nature but is starting to break the habit and earn a few bob despite his idiotic ideas, then yourself.Nice bloke, good poster, even better at windups, good wc, starting to get a good biz. But held back by disgruntlement at officer class (me?) and no idea about potential.

I might have known you'd save and paste it, I said i'd modify it because i agree with what's said about the many startups. I was trying to be frank with ewan not start world war three.

I'm going to save this post; I may make part of it my signature; it's so funny.

Discount, for a bloke of your age, you don't half talk some twaddle.  

Now go to bed before you embarrass yourself some more.

[CLEANGLASSUK]

pram? rattle? - out of pram CALM DOWN !

[peter holley]

 this is my PRICE! :oI'm worth evry penny

[Tosh]

Lets here your views on price and value.

Redefine the question so I can understand it; I'm a Geordie; and I'll answer, but you'll have to be quick; Wor Lass wants her feet rubbed (groan).

Is this a Karl Marx thing?

[Clive McDonald]

It wasn't twaddle, I was pulling my punches, yes the three amigos are well liked amusing posters but are also a case study in how it should be done, how it shouldn't, and something in between.

You are nice hard working bloke tosh and there is nothing wrong with that. Lifes too short.

[Mike 108]

ZZZZzzzzzzz

[Oakley Windows]

I sometimes wonder if you two shouldnt be in the local panto as Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dee. Riddles.

[peter holley]

this is my PRICE! :oI'm worth evry penny

LOL, sorry only deal with notes, not lose change.   

change will do ...as long as its money to the  same value

[Tosh]

Lets here your views on price and value.

Redefine the question so I can understand it; I'm a Geordie; and I'll answer, but you'll have to be quick; Wor Lass wants her feet rubbed (groan).

Is this a Karl Marx thing?

How do you determine price Tosh, Value should be a part of that but some may not have considered it.

Karl Marx puts it better than I ever could when he wrote:

But since the workman receives his wages after his labor is performed, and knows, moreover, that what he actually gives to the capitalist is his labor, the value or price of his laboring power necessarily appears to him as the price or value of his labor itself. If the price of his laboring power is fifteen pence, in which six hours of labor are realized, and if he works twelve hours, he necessarily considers these fifteen pence as the value or price of twelve hours of labor, although these twelve hours of labor realize themselves in a value of thirty pence.

But does Discount really reckon he's earning £1.5K a week, or is he living in Fairy Land (which is just outside of Barry Island)?