[matt]

once again

some people will allways belive to spend little money and 15 mins of your time will not be as good as phoning alex and buying a pole from him

[geefree]

once again

some people will allways belive to spend little money and 15 mins of your time will not be as good as phoning alex and buying a pole from him

you would think they would be impressed wouldnt you?...

some people have forgotten whats its like to start out with no money.

[geefree]

Third day...

excellent...  getting so used to it now.... did over a couple of con roofs today... easy....

then simply took the top section off and whoooooooosh.... consrervatory done in no time...

Loving it 

[elite mike]

although if you put the same effort into marketing you would be better off.

Dave, this post has rankled me for some reason; maybe it sounds too off-the-cuff and arrogant.

I'm just trying to help, so why don't you do the same?

Why not start a new post helping us to market ourselves better?

You could title it, 'How to market yourself in fifteen minutes for £20'! 

What's up Tosh?  Didn't he pay out on THAT bet? 

apparentley not

[matt]

once again

some people will allways belive to spend little money and 15 mins of your time will not be as good as phoning alex and buying a pole from him

you would think they would be impressed wouldnt you?...

some people have forgotten whats its like to start out with no money.

the thing is though, its not about money, its about ease of use ( lightness )

the point about the money is they think becasue its cheap, it will not be that good

[geefree]

thats why i said .. you would think people would be impressed. 

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

What do u do with the extra sections you need to reach over the conservatories and the 3rd story windows?

Am I correct in thinking  that u end up with lots of little sections scattered around the property when not using them.

Bob

[Tosh]

although if you put the same effort into marketing you would be better off.

Dave, this post has rankled me for some reason; maybe it sounds too off-the-cuff and arrogant.

I'm just trying to help, so why don't you do the same?

Why not start a new post helping us to market ourselves better?

You could title it, 'How to market yourself in fifteen minutes for £20'! 

What's up Tosh?  Didn't he pay out on THAT bet? 

That was funny; you were there, sat close to the bar and  laughing like a hyena, I remember.

Dave would've coughed-up, but as you well know, I would've been a 'bad un' if I accepted the money; it would've been like robbing sweets from a toddler.  You can't really hold someone to a £100 bet just because they've drank too much and are over-confident over something daft.

Thinking back, I should've made him donate it to a charity of my choice! 

Shiner (Paul) when you get the chance, have a go at this DIY pole; you'll love it.  You're a big guy, but you're not getting any younger (neither am I), and I'm sure this pole will give you less chance of getting a repetitive stress injury; and you'll 'enjoy' doing all the hefty pole jobs that you may not look forward to doing now.

I don't think it's perfect; I think a Facelift would suit my needs, but I'm too tight to splash out on one; so even if this pole is second best to the 'best' it's worth it because of its price-tag.  

Try it.  Trust me.

[geefree]

depended on height of house, some bedroom windows are higher than others etc...

i fully extend it in the back garden.. do all upstairs..... drop the pole on the grasss...(its very very light),, take the top section off.... and you have a nice small section still attached to brush to whip round ground floor.... and because its so light...

your arms go at 100 miles per hour,


so, basically... i take a look at the height from the van, and may leave the bottom section in the van....

and if you dont  fancy walking all the way round with the pole in the air etc.... just pop it in half, put a section under your arm... and pop it back on when you get to the front etc.

[Moderator David@stives]

OOPs

I seem to have stirred up an hornets nest here, didnt mean to.
I was just responding to Matts post which sounded a little off the cuff and arrogant too

some people will never try it, as it doesnt cost loads of money, its not even
possible it can work and work well

All I was saying is my head hurts bad enough without giving any brain power to making my own tools, i admit i bought a £20 pole a couple of years back and it is stood in the garage waiting for attention, probably still be there in another 2 years.


I would much rather put that time and effort into finding more jobs.

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

Cheers Gazzasp8

[Moderator David@stives]

Tosh

Cant you remember Paul was sat on our table.

Anyway i offered to send you the money, give me your address and i will post it.

[Paul Coleman]

although if you put the same effort into marketing you would be better off.

Dave, this post has rankled me for some reason; maybe it sounds too off-the-cuff and arrogant.

I'm just trying to help, so why don't you do the same?

Why not start a new post helping us to market ourselves better?

You could title it, 'How to market yourself in fifteen minutes for £20'! 

What's up Tosh?  Didn't he pay out on THAT bet? 

That was funny; you were there, sat close to the bar and  laughing like a hyena, I remember.

Dave would've coughed-up, but as you well know, I would've been a 'bad un' if I accepted the money; it would've been like robbing sweets from a toddler.  You can't really hold someone to a £100 bet just because they've drank too much and are over-confident over something daft.

Thinking back, I should've made him donate it to a charity of my choice! 

Shiner (Paul) when you get the chance, have a go at this DIY pole; you'll love it.  You're a big guy, but you're not getting any younger (neither am I), and I'm sure this pole will give you less chance of getting a repetitive stress injury; and you'll 'enjoy' doing all the hefty pole jobs that you may not look forward to doing now.

I don't think it's perfect; I think a Facelift would suit my needs, but I'm too tight to splash out on one; so even if this pole is second best to the 'best' it's worth it because of its price-tag.  

Try it.  Trust me.

Tosh.  I will try it early next year.  Just trying to juggle so many balls at the moment that I need to organise myself a lot better first.  I'm using a nice light pole already (SLX) so there's no urgency for me.  Also, for very high stuff I can get the SL2 out.  Having one of those Zensortosh poles could save a lot of wear on the more expensive stuff.

[matt]

OOPs

I seem to have stirred up an hornets nest here, didnt mean to.
I was just responding to Matts post which sounded a little off the cuff and arrogant too

some people will never try it, as it doesnt cost loads of money, its not even
possible it can work and work well

All I was saying is my head hurts bad enough without giving any brain power to making my own tools, i admit i bought a £20 pole a couple of years back and it is stood in the garage waiting for attention, probably still be there in another 2 years.


I would much rather put that time and effort into finding more jobs.

it wasnt meant to sound  arrogant, but i honestly belive, people think " its only 20 quid, it will not last long, it will not be up to the job, it looks rubbish " now i have heard all 3 of them about the pole, and all are wrong

but if some1 put a tag on it from i will use for example alex did ( only as a example ) charged 50 quid for it, people would look at it and think, WOW thats so light, i must try it

mine sat in my garage for over 1 year, afterall i had my unger ali pole which worked very well, its not intill you try it, you realise the lightness of it and thats what makes it great, now the plus side is of course its cheap as chips and when you put the 2 together it must be worth a try

[matt]

although if you put the same effort into marketing you would be better off.

Dave, this post has rankled me for some reason; maybe it sounds too off-the-cuff and arrogant.

I'm just trying to help, so why don't you do the same?

Why not start a new post helping us to market ourselves better?

You could title it, 'How to market yourself in fifteen minutes for £20'! 

What's up Tosh?  Didn't he pay out on THAT bet? 

That was funny; you were there, sat close to the bar and  laughing like a hyena, I remember.

Dave would've coughed-up, but as you well know, I would've been a 'bad un' if I accepted the money; it would've been like robbing sweets from a toddler.  You can't really hold someone to a £100 bet just because they've drank too much and are over-confident over something daft.

Thinking back, I should've made him donate it to a charity of my choice! 

Shiner (Paul) when you get the chance, have a go at this DIY pole; you'll love it.  You're a big guy, but you're not getting any younger (neither am I), and I'm sure this pole will give you less chance of getting a repetitive stress injury; and you'll 'enjoy' doing all the hefty pole jobs that you may not look forward to doing now.

I don't think it's perfect; I think a Facelift would suit my needs, but I'm too tight to splash out on one; so even if this pole is second best to the 'best' it's worth it because of its price-tag. 

Try it.  Trust me.

 I'm using a nice light pole already (SLX) so there's no urgency for me.

honestly, ive tried the SLX, if you think thats a nice light pole, you havent tried the RT Z-flex 

[Moderator David@stives]

Matt

No problem,
Just using Toshs terminology, neither of us were being arrogant maybe a little ironic 

 my post was no different to yours really.

Funny that but i would buy one off anyone for £50 as long as it was the 4ft 6 plus sections.

Do you want to sell me one , cash waiting

[Tosh]

Tosh
Anyway i offered to send you the money, give me your address and i will post it.

C'mon, Dave, you know me better than that; you know I don't want the money and I'm just winding-you-up.  

That's got to be about two-nil-in-Tosh's-favour, and you know I'll never let you forget it; I'm like that.

Having one of those Zensortosh poles could save a lot of wear on the more expensive stuff.

Exactly!  That's what I've been saying to you rich guys who can afford the off-the-shelf-stuff.

It's not second best either; not for routine two-story work.  I had another 'go' of Squeaky's pole this afternoon; he cleans one of my neighbor's houses, and I 'caught him' when I returned home.

His off-the shelf-pole is definately better, but the difference is much less noticiable at lower heights.

[Tosh]

Funny that but i would buy one off anyone for £50 as long as it was the 4ft 6 plus sections.

Do you want to sell me one , cash waiting

No, we're not suppliers; it's so easy to sort out that I'm worried about you (is everything okay?), but I'm interested as to why you want '4 foot six inch sections'?

Why that size?

The Zensorflex has 3 foot sections, which when I first got mine, I thought they were far too short; only because I'd seen Ian_Giles's 'off-the-shelf' poles which were a lot longer.

But having used the Zensorflex; the short sections are ideal.  On about three occassions today I could remove a bottom 3 foot sections because a wall or a bush was behind me, and the pole was still comfortable to use.

It's not like you have to undo every section before you put the pole away; I put my pole into my estate car in two sections, an eight and a seven foot section.  So I just take them both out and put them together.

Easy!

[Moderator David@stives]

Tosh

Like i said earlier, time is better spent elsewhere, than hunting round for tools etc, far easier if i could just buy one.

I have spent the last few years cobbling things together and dont want to do it no more, even the thought of refitting one of the vans this week fills me with dread, i have so many other things business wise i would much rather be doing.

Even the thought of having to clean another window makes me fill ill.

[s.hughes]

I am going to order the pole but I will wait a while as VAT is coming down and when it does my order will go in and by then they should have some in stock