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zeusweiler

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2008, 04:34:05 pm »
Iv'e had a thought there are many more individuals with diy and cheaper pro systems out there than an ionic system and most of them use the forums. therefor would it not be more benificial for these people to club  together and create the industry standard logo on the forums that is universal to use by all wfp'ers and then there will be no need to use other companies logos as they will mean less in the industry. job done ;)

stoneleech

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Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2008, 04:42:48 pm »
Its there trade mark, so even if you do buy any system you still need there permission to use the “Reach & Wash” logo.

 :)

I'm not using their picture logo as I understood that to be Ionics system logo (which I do not have), however I didn't realise the words Reach & Wash were trademarked as there is no reference on their website that it is. If they had put clearly the words reach & wash were trademarked by themselves, i would never have used it, incurred expense etc. And also someone has grassed me up and killed my buzz about my van and the enthusiasm I felt about starting off my own enterprise.... which doesn't feel very nice. Like I said lessons learned.

Paul Coleman

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2008, 04:43:13 pm »
Iv'e had a thought there are many more individuals with diy and cheaper pro systems out there than an ionic system and most of them use the forums. therefor would it not be more benificial for these people to club  together and create the industry standard logo on the forums that is universal to use by all wfp'ers and then there will be no need to use other companies logos as they will mean less in the industry. job done ;)

Like "Kludge and Wash" you mean?   :)

zeusweiler

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2008, 04:48:12 pm »
reach and bosh  ;D

super ultra pure quality diy wfp technology for less than £600 including van yes, pure power to the people.
i dont even care i dont even have a van and dont want to use any logos.  ;D ;D ;D

Paul Coleman

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2008, 04:50:02 pm »
reach and bosh  ;D

super ultra pure quality diy wfp technology for less than £600 including van yes, pure power to the people.
i dont even care i dont even have a van and dont want to use any logos.  ;D ;D ;D

How about Rick Shaw.  The window cleaner who uses pedal power  :)

Helen

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2008, 05:08:13 pm »
Does any one know if you could have “Reach and Wash Window Cleaning” ?

Wouldn't have thought so.

zeusweiler

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2008, 05:23:19 pm »
personaly i think washing is something you do with a car or clothes, maybe clean is better as we are window cleaners not washers  ;D

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2008, 05:27:20 pm »
personaly i think washing is something you do with a car or clothes, maybe clean is better as we are window cleaners not washers  ;D

My wife and I were talking about that yesterday - it's an Americanism 'window washing' and 'window washers'.  We always refer in the UK to 'window cleaning' and 'window cleaners'  so 'reach and clean' is far more UK specific.

zeusweiler

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2008, 05:30:43 pm »
I agree.  ;D

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2008, 06:06:18 pm »
personaly i think washing is something you do with a car or clothes, maybe clean is better as we are window cleaners not washers  ;D
I wash windows  therefor I am a window washer

jaykie

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2008, 06:21:12 pm »
I know people who use the logo as they had there system in the past, before i got into window cleaning i just thought that the ionics sign just ment the person had a tank in the back and cleaned windows with a pole with a brush on the end and the method was called reach and wash, dont tell me that commercial companys have ever rung up a window cleaner and said we are only willing to ask you to clean our premises if you have a ionics system on board of your van, all they care about is that its cleaned properly and within h&s.

Chris

NWH

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Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2008, 07:02:18 pm »
The key is you put something on the side of your van don`t go telling everyone,i see Reach and Wash vans about from time to time but never look inside so who`s to say they have 1.

zeusweiler

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2008, 07:10:21 pm »
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I wash windows  therefor I am a window washer

you are indeed i can see that. LOL tell me something how do you wash the inside of the windows ?
 ;D ;D ;D

DON;T TAKE NO NOTICE OF ME I'M ONLY HAVIN A LAUGH TODAY IT'S SUNDAY AND I'M BORED  ;D

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #73 on: August 17, 2008, 07:13:44 pm »
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I wash windows  therefor I am a window washer

you are indeed i can see that. LOL tell me something how do you wash the inside of the windows ?
 ;D ;D ;D

DON;T TAKE NO NOTICE OF ME I'M ONLY HAVIN A LAUGH TODAY IT'S SUNDAY AND I'M BORED  ;D
I could be using Ionics inside window washer  :P

zeusweiler

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #74 on: August 17, 2008, 07:27:34 pm »
LOL Good answer. you mean the £4000 carpet machine ? but it's far too slow and bulky and only works if you stand at the right angle what if there is something in your way do you know if its crash tested? ;D ;D ;D

Roger Slater

Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2008, 08:47:08 pm »
I know at least 4 window cleaners in my region with the ionics logo on the side of there van and they use what i think look similar to freedom trollies.

Ionics want to grow up IMO and get there crap website soughted out.

I would just put the words (NEW REACH & WASH) on the side of your van, i doubt very much they could or would even want to pursue this through the courts.

I personally would never buy an overpriced piece of kit like Ionics Systems there is absolutley no need.

TennetClean

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Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2008, 11:39:32 pm »
LOL they don't need to sue you (though I'm sure they could) they only need to report you to trading standards.  Because saying you use reach and wash when in actual fact you use Mr Bodgit's DIY system, is fasle selling or something.

Like saying you sell Armani perfume when its really something else entirely

Then you'll be right up the creek
My friends call me Tuppence Clean

TennetClean

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Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #77 on: August 18, 2008, 12:01:57 am »
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Toilet clean why dont you just go away and find a new hobby ?

Because I'd miss you too much merson old pal, and lets face it you would miss me too
My friends call me Tuppence Clean

Nathanael Jones

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Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #78 on: August 18, 2008, 06:41:40 am »
Have you decided that reporting ladder users isn't enough,.. and now you've joined the "reach and wash" police Tennet??!! 
;) :)

stoneleech

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Re: Reach & Wash - registered trade mark?
« Reply #79 on: August 18, 2008, 11:02:42 am »
£30 to get signage ammended.