[Len Gribble]

Mark

Yes I did and to be honest if I did buy one I would only use their agents as they are meant for this machine.

Len

[Derek]

Stu

I tried the glide wand and couldn't get on with it so swopped for a roller wand.

The roller wand is harder work but certainly does the job well, the glide wand performs better on smoother carpet surfaces.

Incidentally I will let you into a secret...There is going to be the launch of a new cfr wand at the Cleaning Show which combines both elements... don't tell anyone just yet 

The NCCA will be organising a carpet cleaners trail at the Show and there are some great prizes on offer... including one of these new wands.

Some superb prizes have also been kindly donated by Solutions UK, Prochem and other NCCA Associate member companies.. yet another good reason to go to the show

Derek

[Ian Gourlay]

I like the sound of this machine but I am easily sold and my Cheque Book keeps me under control.

[stu_thomson]

mark, as part of the package machine comes with 7.5 inch stair tool and either 3 or 5 inch tool, but could have those 2 upholstery tools instead of stairtool, suppose i could use 5 inch tool for stairs with no probs. cheers stu

[Karl Wildey]

No stu, missed the demo at Hugh Crane, well it totally slipped my mind, shame that cos having read a lot about this machine, I would like to see it prove itself. I believe in heat, and the hotter the better, so this would go 'againist the grain', so must see a demo.

Was going to send a pm, but don't know how? help

[Mark Roberts]

Stu, I use the 5" for stairs with no problem.
One thing I would suggest is to buy some CFR de-foam, because the machine recycles, foam can be a problem. One capfull of this stuff in the tank is all you need, it really is the best ive seen. As you have to buy this stuff in a case of 4 ask if you can have 3 defoam and 1 Deo-Reo 40 Odour Neutralizer which will leave a smelly carpet with a nice mango fragrance.

Mark

[c.fitch]

Hi Stuart,

We all clean with soiled water.

But with cfr you remove more than most other systems.

Commercial use hot pre-spray on black top.

Domestic not an issue,as Derek said cold water will do.

Also very good cleaning and drying times.

Impressive piece of kit.

From 1 of those cfr idiots,but a happy one.

Colin

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Is it true that the more psi the more hose lengths you can have without wetting the carpet through?

I read in an earlier thread that 400psi will handle 100 feet of pipe, what about 800psi will that handle 200 feet?

Shaun

[Steve Carpenter]

Hi Stu,

MYTHS ABOUT RECYCLING

Some manufacturers of conventional carpet extraction systems say that recycling the cleaning solution is bad because it puts dirty water back into the carpet.  This gives you a picture of dumping the contents of an extractor’s recovery tank back into the carpet… but, this is a false picture for two reasons:

1.   CFR’s patented filtration system removes virtually all of the suspended solids from the solution before it is reapplied.  In fact, once the soil saturation level within the solution reaches the point where it loses its cleaning effectiveness; the CFR Work Station automatically shuts down, telling you that it is time to change to new solution. 

2.   With the CFR system, solution is always “in transit” while the solution from conventional extractors takes a “one way trip” into the carpet and up to 40% of it never makes it back to the machine due to gravitational pull.  With CFR however, the solution is passed through the carpet fibres at such high speeds that gravity has no effect on the solution.  Less than 10% of CFR solution is left in the carpet as a result of surface tension… and this evaporates almost immediately. 

The filtration system engineered by CFR effectively filters “and cleans” the recovered solution back into the solution tank for continuous use.  The filtration system, not unlike water filtration systems passes the solution through an extensive set of filters which are designed to remove soil from the solution allowing it to be used again.  The system filters with 99% plus effectiveness and reuses the cleaning solution up to 7 times without the need to empty and refill. 

For example, the CFR Pro 400 Station with a tank capacity of 28 litres and its recycling ability actually offers the operator up to 196 litres of useable cleaning solution in real terms.  The larger Paramount Series offers 662-1060 litre working capacity depending on the particular model. 

The CFR Work Stations offers much higher productivity without the need to continually empty and refill.  For example, it is possible to clean 200+ metres of heavily soiled carpet with one tank full.  In the domestic environment however, a three piece suite and the carpets in a 3-4 bedroom house can be cleaned without emptying the tank. 

With CFR you can clean faster and leave textiles cleaner and also drier than conventional extraction equipment.

If you have any questions about the CFR system then please do not hesitate to give me a call on 07786 264 648

Regards

Steve

[Glynn]

Steve
What happens to urine, say when cleaning elderly or nursing/rest homes.
How does the machine seperate this ?

[nick.solution]

conventional extractors takes a “one way trip” into the carpet and up to 40% of it never makes it back to the machine due to gravitational pull.


************************

Come on!!!!!!!!

Best regards Nick

[Steve Carpenter]

Hi Glynn,

The solids present in urine are effectively filtered and cross contamination controlled by the use of CFR’s Deo Reo 30 or Deo Reo 40 in-tank deodorizers.  These are pH neutral additives that kill bacteria, neutralise odours and re-odorise at the same time.

I clean and maintain carpets and upholstery in this environment and leave carpets clean and odour free.

Alternatively, Ozone assisted machines from CFR are available which can be used in this environment as well as hospitals, day care centres, schools, food and beverage processing plants or facilities with bio-contaminant issues etc.

Regards

Steve

[mark_roberts]

So whats the least amount of solution in the tank to make it work.  I'm thinking of transporting the machine with solution in the tank instead of filling for every job?

With one vac motor, what lenght of hose can be used with out major vacuum sacrifice?

How many cords are needed for the vacuum and large pump?

Whats happens to all the dust and grit if I happen to forget to prevac?

Mark

[Steve Carpenter]

Hi Mark,

For the machine to operate at optimum vacuum capacity the tank should to be filled to ½” below the vac shut off float. For spotting fill the machine so that the back flush assembly is covered.

As the CFR system is a single tank machine combining solution and waste, never transport with water present in the tank. Vehicle motion would allow water to gain access to the vacuum motor. 

The current Pro Station 400 operates at 77ft without loss of performance. The Altra and new Paramount series operate at up to 100ft without loss of performance.

Current models operate with one power lead (including the 1000psi  unit) with the exception of models fitted with heat exchangers, which use two power leads.

Dust and grit will be filtered as normal but as a professional Mark you wouldn’t forget to vacuum first.

Regards

Steve

[stevegunn]

Hi Stu,

MYTHS ABOUT RECYCLING

Some manufacturers of conventional carpet extraction systems say that recycling the cleaning solution is bad because it puts dirty water back into the carpet.  This gives you a picture of dumping the contents of an extractor’s recovery tank back into the carpet… but, this is a false picture for two reasons:

1.   CFR’s patented filtration system removes virtually all of the suspended solids from the solution before it is reapplied.  In fact, once the soil saturation level within the solution reaches the point where it loses its cleaning effectiveness; the CFR Work Station automatically shuts down, telling you that it is time to change to new solution. 

2.   With the CFR system, solution is always “in transit” while the solution from conventional extractors takes a “one way trip” into the carpet and up to 40% of it never makes it back to the machine due to gravitational pull.  With CFR however, the solution is passed through the carpet fibres at such high speeds that gravity has no effect on the solution.  Less than 10% of CFR solution is left in the carpet as a result of surface tension… and this evaporates almost immediately. 

The filtration system engineered by CFR effectively filters “and cleans” the recovered solution back into the solution tank for continuous use.  The filtration system, not unlike water filtration systems passes the solution through an extensive set of filters which are designed to remove soil from the solution allowing it to be used again.  The system filters with 99% plus effectiveness and reuses the cleaning solution up to 7 times without the need to empty and refill. 

For example, the CFR Pro 400 Station with a tank capacity of 28 litres and its recycling ability actually offers the operator up to 196 litres of useable cleaning solution in real terms.  The larger Paramount Series offers 662-1060 litre working capacity depending on the particular model. 

The CFR Work Stations offers much higher productivity without the need to continually empty and refill.  For example, it is possible to clean 200+ metres of heavily soiled carpet with one tank full.  In the domestic environment however, a three piece suite and the carpets in a 3-4 bedroom house can be cleaned without emptying the tank. 

With CFR you can clean faster and leave textiles cleaner and also drier than conventional extraction equipment.

If you have any questions about the CFR system then please do not hesitate to give me a call on 07786 264 648

Regards

Steve

Off course you will have independant research to confirm all this or have we just got to take cfrs word for these claims

[Martin S]

Ladeeeez and Gentlemen.  And now, for the main event of the evening, introducing to you, in the right hand corner...................................................

Deja vous 

Regards.

Martin S

[Steve Carpenter]

Hi Stu,

MYTHS ABOUT RECYCLING

Some manufacturers of conventional carpet extraction systems say that recycling the cleaning solution is bad because it puts dirty water back into the carpet.  This gives you a picture of dumping the contents of an extractor’s recovery tank back into the carpet… but, this is a false picture for two reasons:

1.   CFR’s patented filtration system removes virtually all of the suspended solids from the solution before it is reapplied.  In fact, once the soil saturation level within the solution reaches the point where it loses its cleaning effectiveness; the CFR Work Station automatically shuts down, telling you that it is time to change to new solution. 

2.   With the CFR system, solution is always “in transit” while the solution from conventional extractors takes a “one way trip” into the carpet and up to 40% of it never makes it back to the machine due to gravitational pull.  With CFR however, the solution is passed through the carpet fibres at such high speeds that gravity has no effect on the solution.  Less than 10% of CFR solution is left in the carpet as a result of surface tension… and this evaporates almost immediately. 

The filtration system engineered by CFR effectively filters “and cleans” the recovered solution back into the solution tank for continuous use.  The filtration system, not unlike water filtration systems passes the solution through an extensive set of filters which are designed to remove soil from the solution allowing it to be used again.  The system filters with 99% plus effectiveness and reuses the cleaning solution up to 7 times without the need to empty and refill. 

For example, the CFR Pro 400 Station with a tank capacity of 28 litres and its recycling ability actually offers the operator up to 196 litres of useable cleaning solution in real terms.  The larger Paramount Series offers 662-1060 litre working capacity depending on the particular model. 

The CFR Work Stations offers much higher productivity without the need to continually empty and refill.  For example, it is possible to clean 200+ metres of heavily soiled carpet with one tank full.  In the domestic environment however, a three piece suite and the carpets in a 3-4 bedroom house can be cleaned without emptying the tank. 

With CFR you can clean faster and leave textiles cleaner and also drier than conventional extraction equipment.

If you have any questions about the CFR system then please do not hesitate to give me a call on 07786 264 648

Regards

Steve

Off course you will have independant research to confirm all this or have we just got to take cfrs word for these claims

CFR commissioned independent assessments to confirm there claims both here in the UK and in the states. Cleaning Research International carried out the testing in the UK.

Dr. Eric Brown and Paul Bakker wrote the report.

A copy will be available to inspect at our stand at the NEC Cleaning Show.

Case studies are also available from the CFR website www.cfrcorp.com

Regards

Steve

[paul@ctcs]

No offence to CFR sales or users intended but I simply dont believe recycling is possible when cleaning heavily soiled and greasy commercial carpets, black top, etc.

Unless of course results are sacrificed.


Paul

[stevegunn]

Hi Stu,

MYTHS ABOUT RECYCLING

Some manufacturers of conventional carpet extraction systems say that recycling the cleaning solution is bad because it puts dirty water back into the carpet.  This gives you a picture of dumping the contents of an extractor’s recovery tank back into the carpet… but, this is a false picture for two reasons:

1.   CFR’s patented filtration system removes virtually all of the suspended solids from the solution before it is reapplied.  In fact, once the soil saturation level within the solution reaches the point where it loses its cleaning effectiveness; the CFR Work Station automatically shuts down, telling you that it is time to change to new solution. 

2.   With the CFR system, solution is always “in transit” while the solution from conventional extractors takes a “one way trip” into the carpet and up to 40% of it never makes it back to the machine due to gravitational pull.  With CFR however, the solution is passed through the carpet fibres at such high speeds that gravity has no effect on the solution.  Less than 10% of CFR solution is left in the carpet as a result of surface tension… and this evaporates almost immediately. 

The filtration system engineered by CFR effectively filters “and cleans” the recovered solution back into the solution tank for continuous use.  The filtration system, not unlike water filtration systems passes the solution through an extensive set of filters which are designed to remove soil from the solution allowing it to be used again.  The system filters with 99% plus effectiveness and reuses the cleaning solution up to 7 times without the need to empty and refill. 

For example, the CFR Pro 400 Station with a tank capacity of 28 litres and its recycling ability actually offers the operator up to 196 litres of useable cleaning solution in real terms.  The larger Paramount Series offers 662-1060 litre working capacity depending on the particular model. 

The CFR Work Stations offers much higher productivity without the need to continually empty and refill.  For example, it is possible to clean 200+ metres of heavily soiled carpet with one tank full.  In the domestic environment however, a three piece suite and the carpets in a 3-4 bedroom house can be cleaned without emptying the tank. 

With CFR you can clean faster and leave textiles cleaner and also drier than conventional extraction equipment.

If you have any questions about the CFR system then please do not hesitate to give me a call on 07786 264 648

Regards

Steve

Off course you will have independant research to confirm all this or have we just got to take cfrs word for these claims

CFR commissioned independent assessments to confirm there claims both here in the UK and in the states. Cleaning Research International carried out the testing in the UK.

Dr. Eric Brown and Paul Bakker wrote the report.

A copy will be available to inspect at our stand at the NEC Cleaning Show.

Case studies are also available from the CFR website www.cfrcorp.com

Regards

Steve

I stand corrected but you have to doubt some of the claims being made

[Shaun_Ashmore]

If anyone is thinking of starting up or upgrading to a 'like truckmount' you could buy a paramount and put it into the back of your van, you would have more than ample water supply for the day and it would be lighter than a TM and cheaper, but the down side would be you can only run 100ft of hose and that would mean you could miss out on a few jobs, but you could always take it out of the van and pull it nearer but don't ask me to help you lift it out with all of that water in it!

Steve what flow rate is the pump?

Shaun