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Sir Squeaky

  • Posts: 8341
Re: Last pump question, honest!
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2008, 09:25:21 pm »
With flow like it is I'll run out by midday.
If not, the new leaks will take care of it!

Re: Last pump question, honest!
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2008, 10:23:18 pm »
 A varitech flow contoller?
Sounds like something I should have. How come they've never been mentioned before?

Wayne Thomas

Re: Last pump question, honest!
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2008, 10:31:37 pm »
A varitech flow contoller?
Sounds like something I should have. How come they've never been mentioned before?

They (Varitech) buy in the circuit boards and fit them inside connection boxes they have made up for them. I had to wait a couple days for them to wire one up for me. It's looking good so far (in comparison to a varistream and shureflow pump) much better, regular, non pulsing flow and more reliable.

alanwilson

  • Posts: 1885
Re: Last pump question, honest!
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2008, 11:01:03 pm »
squeeky just buy a varistream from Purefreedom - £75

Take an hour to set it up right and you'll notice a big difference.

I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Sir Squeaky

  • Posts: 8341
Re: Last pump question, honest!
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2008, 08:13:09 am »
A varitech flow contoller?
Sounds like something I should have. How come they've never been mentioned before?

They (Varitech) buy in the circuit boards and fit them inside connection boxes they have made up for them. I had to wait a couple days for them to wire one up for me. It's looking good so far (in comparison to a varistream and shureflow pump) much better, regular, non pulsing flow and more reliable.
Does a varistream pulse then?
That sounds irritating.

Oh well, off to work, lets see if my connections make it through today!

alanwilson

  • Posts: 1885
Re: Last pump question, honest!
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2008, 07:18:47 pm »
a varistream shouldn't pulse - its not set up right if it does that.

we have about 90m or 95m of 6mm microbore on every reel, every reel is fed by a 100psi shurflo pump and digi varistream, we run the pumps all day on setting 2 or 3 (like a good flow), it never ever pulses, never fails, great setup.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Last pump question, honest!
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2008, 05:23:55 pm »
Is this correct?
I haven't had chance to try it yet, as the battery's on charge.

Quite neat for one of my DIY jobs!


matt

Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2008, 07:33:43 pm »
thats it

a pic of mine on the DIY forum, you can view the pic

the only thing i would say, it turn the T on the out pipe to be like a T with the out pipe hitting the bottom of the T ( if you get what i mean ), pumps seem to prefere it that way


matt

Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2008, 07:35:56 pm »
Xttp://img79.i.us/img79/2979/box4oy.jpg

change the X for a h

matt

Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2008, 07:37:38 pm »
ive just checked mine, i used a Y

Sir Squeaky

  • Posts: 8341
Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2008, 08:04:40 pm »
thats it

a pic of mine on the DIY forum, you can view the pic

the only thing i would say, it turn the T on the out pipe to be like a T with the out pipe hitting the bottom of the T ( if you get what i mean ), pumps seem to prefere it that way


Ok Matt, I'll do that.

Should work fine though?

Re: Last pump question, honest!
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2008, 08:21:23 pm »
Is this correct?
I haven't had chance to try it yet, as the battery's on charge.

Quite neat for one of my DIY jobs!


I have never ever seen a pump set up like this  :-\, I made a quick diy kit for a car till van was fixed, water in pump via strainer water out via hose, no problem at all.

Ian

matt

Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2008, 08:29:36 pm »
thats it

a pic of mine on the DIY forum, you can view the pic

the only thing i would say, it turn the T on the out pipe to be like a T with the out pipe hitting the bottom of the T ( if you get what i mean ), pumps seem to prefere it that way


Ok Matt, I'll do that.

Should work fine though?

yes mate, it'll work fine anyways like it is, its under pressure anyway

the idea of having the T the other way is the flow is easier

alanwilson

  • Posts: 1885
Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2008, 09:57:50 pm »
AAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!

SQUEEKY!  do you not realise why your other pump goosed itself?  You can control the pressure fine with an inline tap - who told you to do that?  your pump has been cycling from day one and you wonder why it has died after a few months??

Please mate for the love of all that is pure and honest, get a varistream, spend an hour to set it up right and thats it - job done, do the fandango.  I know you are finding it tough right now but you will save money in the not so long run if you do it right. 

canvass like the daddy tomorrow and get an extra £50 of work, then do the same on monday - varistream is now bought and paid for.

I really wish I lived nearer to you, I would gladly help you out for a day or two.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2008, 10:03:21 pm »
AAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!

SQUEEKY!  do you not realise why your other pump goosed itself?  You can control the pressure fine with an inline tap - who told you to do that?  your pump has been cycling from day one and you wonder why it has died after a few months??
My pump hasn't been cycling at all.
You're a mile off Alan!

Ian_Giles

  • Posts: 2997
Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2008, 10:30:19 pm »
Squeaks is now sorted, but my own solution is to have your flow control between the tank and the pump, and not the pump and the pole hose.

The pump doesn't cycle at all and because it is on the negative pressure side  the pressure switch is never activated during use.

Been using this method for 15 months now, not a single problem.

and all it costs is a £3.50 inline tap.


Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Justen Uff

  • Posts: 687
Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2008, 10:46:02 pm »
Picture would be good Ian Giles because most is double dutch on this so far?

matt

Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2008, 11:13:03 pm »
its easy when you know how

did you click on the link you added, as i doesnt work with the http changed to www

well it doesnt on my PC, though i wait to be corrected  ;)

alanwilson

  • Posts: 1885
Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2008, 12:06:02 am »
squeeky if you have no electronic controller for your pump then it will run at max speed all the time - then when you throttle the flow the pressure will increase and activate the pressure switch, when the valve is partially open the switch will switch on and off quite fast.

I promise you your switch has burnt out because of this.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Ian_Giles

  • Posts: 2997
Re: Bypass now fitted
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2008, 05:43:04 am »
Picture would be good Ian Giles because most is double dutch on this so far?

I'll do a pic later if I've the time....

I have a cheap, plastic hoselock inline tap in  the hose that leads from my van tank to the pump, I have this set so that it gives me the flow I require for working.

This is in the negative pressure side of the pump, ie the pump is 'sucking' the water.

Everyone else has their flow control the other side of the pump, the positive pressure side, and unless you have an ecoflow or varistream setup you run the risk of burning out your pressure switch.

When I first decided to put my flow control in the hose leading from the van tank to the pump I was just keeping my fingers crossed it would work....well 15 months on it still is, so far as I am aware I'm the only person who does this...it just occurred to me at the time that it would be a good way to reduce the strain on the pump's pressure switch.
So far so good ;)
And it cost less than a fiver too ::)

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES