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stevegunn

Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2008, 04:17:12 pm »
Yes thats the one.

I did towel dry the suite but I couldnt get the hand tool marks out. The customer was given a brush with the suite so hopefully a hot mist and a brush may help.

Cheers

Did not help yourself there then,left suite with tool marks,you have more chance getting them out whilst suite is still wet.What temperature was the water when cleaning?   

pro-fresh

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2008, 04:35:16 pm »
The temp was 60 deg in the solution tank, so not to hot I wouldnt of thought.

You are right I should of spent more time brushing and toweling the seat  covers.

It is a very dense pile almost like a faux mink, once you get it wet you can get through dozens of towels and it still feels pretty damp.

How do you guys get natural fibre suites to dry fast. I use a CFR hand tool and towel dry and they do seem to take a long time to dry. This is using a Ninja at 300psi and top spec vacuum motors.

Kev.
I am the universe expressing itself as a carpet cleaner.

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Doug Holloway

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2008, 04:40:09 pm »
Hi Kev

It looks like you are going to have to reset the pile, might be worth trying hot towells i.e immersed in hot water and wrung dry.

I believe the key to fast drying is to use much less water, apply prespray and give it  20 - 30 mins to soak in, agiataing first with a microfibre cloth.

Cheers

Doug

pro-fresh

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2008, 04:51:35 pm »
Cheers Doug

Will give the hot towels a go as well.
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Ken Wainwright

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2008, 05:01:39 pm »
Kevin

70% viscose and 30% cotton means you have 100% cellulosic fibres. Think of the viscose as being paper (it typically comes from wood pulp).  When it's wet, it's very week and easily damaged. In a perfect world this fabric would be dry cleaned. It's not a perfect world :(  

It is VERY easy to abrade the viscose away, especially in contact areas, if the viscose forms the "hairy" part of the chenille, so be very careful with towelling. If this happens, a casual inspection by the customer would appear as though the fabric may have changed colour :o  It hasn't, it's just the chenille that has been abraded leaving a different colour yarn showing through.  This will also happen with wear and tear, but soil build up usually hides it.

I would normally clean this fabric with the red (01) CFR jet.

As you have raised this issue, I would ask if you have attended any upholstery cleaning training courses?

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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Doug Holloway

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2008, 05:33:52 pm »
Hi Guys

Those of us older cleaners cut our teeth on viscose suites, which to the inexperienced often looked like Dralon but behaved very differently.

A key thing is how a fabric wets out, if it soaks up water then alarm bell should be raised and a lowish moisture approach taken.

Cheers

Doug

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2008, 05:52:32 pm »
We used to use a semi brass carding brush, apply hottish water with a fine mist and back comb and then brush in natural direction.

Shaun

pro-fresh

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2008, 06:37:24 pm »
Ken

Yes I have been on the NCCA course and a Prochem course a couple of years  ago. I have just looked in my NCCA upholstery handbook and there is a sample of chenille, it says can be wet cleaned with care, although it looks nothing like the chenille I have a problem with.

Kev.
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www.pro-fresh.co.uk

*paul_moss

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2008, 06:47:03 pm »
Kev some of the cheaper suites now especially from Argos have a very high viscose content, some of the better or more dearer ones have a higher cotton content.
Like Ken I would use a 01 jet with the cfr or if bad an 02. Best cleaned with a m/s. If the pile has now got wand marks you may bebetter recleanng those areas then lightly toweling with a microfibre cloth or soft brush.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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colin fitch

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2008, 07:20:43 am »
Kevin,

You can correct this, as already said by many on here.

You will have to return and re-clean the cushions
[extraction rinse with warm water against the pile
 then re-set the pile with a brass boffin brush or cotton toweling]

Also check the cfr hand tool for any damage, my guy uses ours around
the edges of solied carpets and caught it on the gripper rods .
When used on the next suite it also left tram lines.

Colin.

pro-fresh

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2008, 05:06:16 pm »
Thanks for all the advice. In the end it was really easy I fine misted it with a hand sprayer, toweled the pile in the right direction and finished it off with a grooming brush.

Thanks again.
Kev.
I am the universe expressing itself as a carpet cleaner.

www.pro-fresh.co.uk

carpet guy

Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2008, 07:52:02 pm »
Re reading this I just noticed the 300 psi, which is far too high for upholstery !!!!!

*paul_moss

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Re: Chenille suite
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2008, 08:19:54 pm »
Re reading this I just noticed the 300 psi, which is far too high for upholstery !!!!!

And with heat will have caused the problem.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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