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WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #100 on: April 24, 2008, 10:42:17 pm »
Can I put an article about window cleaning on council estates in?  I think that would go down well.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
How much would we have to edit to avoid upseting a group of our readers  ;D ;D
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L.J.Thorpe

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #101 on: April 24, 2008, 10:45:26 pm »
what run volumes
format size
colour throughout ???
no. of pages
supplied copy
paper spec etc

WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #102 on: April 24, 2008, 10:46:40 pm »
I will email you the specs we used as a samples
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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #103 on: April 24, 2008, 10:48:07 pm »
Window cleaning mavericks- I only clean posh peoples house's and I don't care a hoot who knows!
A profile of Tennant would be good, well voluntereed, you can be one of them celebrity WC's.

WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #104 on: April 24, 2008, 10:48:27 pm »
what run volumes
format size
colour throughout ???
no. of pages
supplied copy
paper spec etc
I will email you the specs we used as a samples

Or I would if I knew your email. Email wce@sky.com and I will send the specs by return.
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WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #105 on: April 24, 2008, 10:56:47 pm »
Window cleaning mavericks- I only clean posh peoples house's and I don't care a hoot who knows!
A profile of Tennant would be good, well voluntereed, you can be one of them celebrity WC's.
Actually you may joke but I hope that we will be able to interview windows from all walks of life about their views on the industry, so maybe tennet will feature! 
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mark dew

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #106 on: April 24, 2008, 11:02:03 pm »
Window cleaning mavericks- I only clean posh peoples house's and I don't care a hoot who knows!
A profile of Tennant would be good, well voluntereed, you can be one of them celebrity WC's.
Actually you may joke but I hope that we will be able to interview windows from all walks of life about their views on the industry, so maybe tennet will feature! 

I would certainly pay for that issue. Even if no others.  ;D

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #107 on: April 24, 2008, 11:06:25 pm »
what run volumes
format size
colour throughout ???
no. of pages
supplied copy
paper spec etc
I will email you the specs we used as a samples

Or I would if I knew your email. Email wce@sky.com and I will send the specs by return.
i did before you posted this ;D

WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #108 on: April 24, 2008, 11:10:05 pm »
Oh right I will check my email shortly... Still sorting through my inbox! have a few more replies to get through as well but I will be replying to everyone who has got in touch regarding the mag. (I would have it done quicker but this forum is addictive!)
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WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #109 on: April 24, 2008, 11:40:55 pm »
LOL!!! :D It might not have much mileage as a feature! I meant window cleaners from all walks of life! Although it would be interesting to hear the views of the a pane of self cleaning glass and it's plans for world domination of the window cleaning industry!
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WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #110 on: April 25, 2008, 09:33:53 am »
what run volumes
format size
colour throughout ???
no. of pages
supplied copy
paper spec etc
I will email you the specs we used as a samples

Or I would if I knew your email. Email wce@sky.com and I will send the specs by return.
i did before you posted this ;D
Just to let you know I have just checked and I haven't received your email!
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Sanity

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #111 on: April 25, 2008, 09:34:24 am »
The idea for an article about cleaning different areas (council / private) is a good idea.  Maybe one person stating the good and bad about private areas, and one about council areas, then we can draw a comparison on the two.  Plus the comparison would allow a non-bias factual conclusion.  Might make a good 3 or 4 page spread...

Forward your ideas please!!!

WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #112 on: April 25, 2008, 09:43:21 am »
It might turn into a  bit of a minefield though if not handled correctly and we could alienate some readers so it would have to be carefully planned but you could also expand the concept and compare commercial and domestic window cleaning as well Sanity I will email you this evening to discuss where we are at with the project!   
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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #113 on: April 25, 2008, 03:11:32 pm »
Just my two penneth, and it's nothing to do with me but I would suggest you leave things more open for disscusion. When you have a number of ideas to work with then you can decide which ones to go with. There are options you haven't considered, would a publisher fancy taking this on in some kind of partnership with you guys- and presumably the support of some members of the forum- .

An attempt at a mock issue would at least give some kind of feel for the thing and you could get some feedback.

Run too far and too fast on your own and that's where you'll be, on your own.

WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #114 on: April 25, 2008, 10:07:47 pm »
Just my two penneth, and it's nothing to do with me but I would suggest you leave things more open for disscusion. When you have a number of ideas to work with then you can decide which ones to go with. There are options you haven't considered, would a publisher fancy taking this on in some kind of partnership with you guys- and presumably the support of some members of the forum- .

An attempt at a mock issue would at least give some kind of feel for the thing and you could get some feedback.

Run too far and too fast on your own and that's where you'll be, on your own.
The  publisher idea is something we may look into my only concern is what the demands  of a publisher might be.  The reason we cant do a mock  issue is because of a lack of funds and any funds we do have will have to go into the first issue. Issue 1 will be sold on a trial basis ie they will be sold by post only no subscriptions. If we are a success (I hope we will be) we will then continue to produce a magazine bi-monthly and will be able to offer subscriptions commencing with issue 2. More details will be posted as soon as I have them 
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mark dew

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #115 on: April 25, 2008, 11:58:10 pm »
ht tp://www.magazine.org/FAQ/2112.cfm

WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #116 on: April 26, 2008, 08:49:33 am »
Thanks for the link mark could be useful!
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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #117 on: April 26, 2008, 08:54:19 am »
What would be a new approach or a different idea is that if you made it implicit that the magazine was written for window cleaners and by window cleaners (i'm including carpet and general cleaning too that was just a figure of speech), and not professional journalists. In other words accept a lower level of copy standard, and in some cases grammar, and in some cases poor structure in the articles.

Obviously you would proof read and copy edit, but what i'm getting at is that it would have a freshness and an immediacy with people actually involved writing some of the reports/reveiws and this would counter the blandness of brought in journos whose work may be of a higher literary standard, but less vital in it's impact and interest.

I feel that one of the shortfalls of the one i can't name is that a windbag is constantly trying to put a pro gloss on things when in fact what is required is brevity.

WCE

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Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #118 on: April 26, 2008, 08:59:39 am »
What would be a new approach or a different idea is that if you made it implicit that the magazine was written for window cleaners and by window cleaners (i'm including carpet and general cleaning too that was just a figure of speech), and not professional journalists. In other words accept a lower level of copy standard, and in some cases grammar, and in some cases poor structure in the articles.

Obviously you would proof read and copy edit, but what i'm getting at is that it would have a freshness and an immediacy with people actually involved writing some of the reports/reveiws and this would counter the blandness of brought in journos whose work may be of a higher literary standard, but less vital in it's impact and interest.

I feel that one of the shortfalls of the one i can't name is that a windbag is constantly trying to put a pro gloss on things when in fact what is required is brevity.
Have you been asleep?! Thats what we are doing. The magazine will be written by window cleaners for window cleaners.
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matt

Re: Professional Window cleaner Magazine rival publication
« Reply #119 on: April 26, 2008, 09:42:48 am »


I feel that one of the shortfalls of the one i can't name is that a windbag is constantly trying to put a pro gloss on things when in fact what is required is brevity.

he was a window cleaner though

my take on it is, its wrote by him then handed to the advertising dept who then rewrite stuff, though to be fair, philip was fairly articulate when on here