[Darren O]

Ive got just over 300 houses within a mile radius about 60 of them is 1 bed flats sheltered housing oaps everybody is more than happy with 2 weeks so why change it also if i said iam only comming round once a month and going to charge you double they would string me up especially the oaps.

[Kentish Poleman]

Two things have always puzzled me when I read posts like this one; why do you buy work, i.e. a round people selling something often means its not very good in the first place, and secondly, why do you buy an expensive franchise to basically still be working for somebody else, i.e paying for the work again?

Surely the easist and simplest way of doing things is to go out and get your own work. Pick the properties you want to clean, by either dropping in a decent looking leaflet, or even knocking at the persons door.

I know of other w/c's who have bought rounds and then lost the goodwill of the customers for all sorts of reasons, and of others who bang on about how great one of their franchises are, and then clean houses for stupid prices. If their franchise is built around that pricing strategy, you will be collecting your old age pension before you begin to ever see a decent return.

[Moderator David@stives]

2 weekly is the mainstay of a lot of terrace and council areas in the North, A lot of these people are houseproud and want clean windows.

If a bird messes there windows then they only have to wait 2 weeks max and not 4 before the window cleaner comes around.

Why dont i just apply the same principle to my shop round, instead of doing them every week, i will offer monthly at 4 times the price, They would just say on your bike.

As for buying a round, it used to be the only way to get your foot in the door, most window cleaners were local and had probably all the houses in a 1 mile radius from his house, so the only way of getting the work was to buy it.

I guess it was a bit differeny in Rural and more affluent areas.

Kentish

I could sell you a round where you could earn £1000 a week , top notch work as well for a relatively low price, what would that be worth £10-£15'000 with a good resale value when you come to sell it.

How long would it take you to knock £1000 worth a week and how far apart and how good are those jobs.

If you want a wage from day 1, then buying a round is the way to go.

If you have some savings to live on or got someone to support you (wife or the dole) then building your own round could be the way to do it.

I know with my living expenses approx £2000 a month, i couldnt afford time to build my own round from scratch.

Dave

[Davo]

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Why dont i just apply the same principle to my shop round, instead of doing them every week, i will offer monthly at 4 times the price, They would just say on your bike.


Dave

Because shops are totally different to houses, a shop window needs cleaning to dispaly its wares, or to maintain the correct brand image.

And on a 4 weeky price its not going up the price is exactly the same, in fact you could actually drop the weekly cleaning price to bring customes on board to your way of working. Ive never met many customers who dont want to save money.

Mr Morris, I obviously bow to your many years of experience, but i thought the idea was to make money, surely there must be a compromise. There arent many smokey smog ridden towns up here any more.

£6 a month is more profitable than £3.50 a fortnight, UNLESS you dont want to go out and get new work

Ive got just over 300 houses within a mile radius about 60 of them is 1 bed flats sheltered housing oaps everybody is more than happy with 2 weeks so why change it also if i said iam only comming round once a month and going to charge you double they would string me up especially the oaps.

And how would they feel if you said i call every 4 weeks now, but it works out cheaper than your paying at the moment?


Mark

[Darren O]

Davo i no what your saying but then i will have to find more work, at the moment i do about 3 days window cleaning 3 days carpet cleaning sometimes half day windows then carpets in the afternoon depends how many carpet jobs i book in the week.The way i see it if its not broke dont fix it.

[Davo]

Davo i no what your saying but then i will have to find more work, at the moment i do about 3 days window cleaning 3 days carpet cleaning sometimes half day windows then carpets in the afternoon depends how many carpet jobs i book in the week.The way i see it if its not broke dont fix it.

I understand your circumstances, and whats right for one isnt necessarily right for another. If you were window cleaning full time would you consider changing the call frequencey?


Mark

[Darren O]

I doubt it only been carpet cleaning for 3 years before that was full time window cleaning the way my run is its nice and compact and fortnightly suits it.

[Steven Shoreditch]

Does anyone do just 6 wkly?  I'm getting more and more peeps asking for that rather than 4 wkly.

[Paul Coleman]

Does anyone do just 6 wkly?  I'm getting more and more peeps asking for that rather than 4 wkly.

Yes.  6 weekly is my norm.  It has been for years.  I found that when I switched from monthly to 6 weekly, it vastly reduced the "not todays".  Occasionally 12 weekly, but only for larger jobs over a certain value.

[the bfg]

the guy whos selling comes on her often and i dont doubt if its good work he will get it.
people make me laugh you havent thought about any of the most important questions about the work just its to expensive.

What if the work is premium work one man earning £200+ a day is it not worthit then??

i know of and would certainly pay good money for good work well established and ticking the right boxes.

But then if people want to sell there work for twice the clean then its proberly Poor work and only worth that!!

yes he does come on here and only last year he said he was selling his rounds so he can consentrate on his building business becase as he said the building industry was picking up and he had some major building contracts approved.

and yet he is and always has been selling window cleaning rounds which he buys cheaply and sells at a premium.

has has never worked any of these rounds for more than 6 months but tries to make out he has done them for years.

my mate has just bought a round in warrington and irlam from a window cleaner who has been doing it for 15 years and actually went with him and let him pick all the customers out randomly and ask them for himself.

he paid  14K  for £4,500  of monthly work and has now been doing it for about 7 months and is very satisfied and has now taken on his brother as he is also picking up work through recommendation.

there are genuine window cleaners out there who sell genuine rounds for genuine reasons,   so why buy from some wide boy at over inflated prices for work that he doesn't even know the customers



they do say the biggest market is the gullable market

[Sean Dyer]

it wasnt ronnie who was selling to build .. that was platinum

i doubt ronnie is selling work he has lads working for him

sean

[Dave Willis]

  2008 

[the bfg]

it wasnt ronnie who was selling to build .. that was platinum

i doubt ronnie is selling work he has lads working for him

sean

I never said it was Ronnie