[ronnie paton]

here here

people like wayne under sell our business.

Canvassing may come easy to some but i know to most it doesnt so if you can buy a round making £30-£50 per hour(one man)you have quality work that in only 20weeks youll have your money back not many businesses can say that!!

[Wayne Thomas]

here here

people like wayne under sell our business.

Canvassing may come easy to some but i know to most it doesnt so if you can buy a round making £30-£50 per hour(one man)you have quality work that in only 20weeks youll have your money back not many businesses can say that!!

I don't undersell window cleaning, ever. I will not pay such a ridiculous amount to buy such work. I would rather go out and canvass day in, day out until I canvassed a whole round worth that much, regardless of how long it took and it certainly wouldn't take 20 weeks to achieve that. That's just laziness. If anyone desperately needs to spend that amount as a sole trader then IMO they are just plain lazy because they should go out and canvass it. If an employer was wanting to buy some work because they had a shortfall of work for an employee that's understandable because they haven't got the time to canvass.

[NWH]

Wayne do you know how hard it is to get work at 30-£50 an hour,it takes years of graft and clever sifting out of rubbish work allowing time to do the cream.No way could you go out and canvass that kind of work when it happens to be raining one day mate,where talking quality work.

[Wayne Thomas]

Wayne do you know how hard it is to get work at 30-£50 an hour,it takes years of graft and clever sifting out of rubbish work allowing time to do the cream.No way could you go out and canvass that kind of work when it happens to be raining one day mate,where talking quality work.

I pick up more work on rainy days then any other time, regardless of what month of the year it is. Why, because other window cleaners are at home twiddling their thumbs moaning about the weather.

[ronnie paton]

wayne you should let us in wiv you r secret if you caould canvass and find top quality work in 20 weeks and to be honest top quality work means a relaible customer who pays well doesnt mess about and is loyal(he wants the best service at a good price-not a poor service a t a cheap price) i dont thinks 20 weeks is long enough to judge the quality of the work!!

[NWH]

Wayne i don`t canvass i have no need to,if you have the work me and Ronnie are on about how have you got time to.

[Wayne Thomas]

wayne you should let us in wiv you r secret if you caould canvass and find top quality work in 20 weeks and to be honest top quality work means a relaible customer who pays well doesnt mess about and is loyal(he wants the best service at a good price-not a poor service a t a cheap price) i dont thinks 20 weeks is long enough to judge the quality of the work!!

Target affluent areas. Stay out of council areas. Don't target 'buy to let' areas. Don't bother with 1up 1 down flats. Don't bother with 2 bedroom houses. Keep an eye in the papers which streets are always up for sale. Get in with property developers and housing associations.

[nat]

Wayne do you know how hard it is to get work at 30-£50 an hour,it takes years of graft and clever sifting out of rubbish work allowing time to do the cream.No way could you go out and canvass that kind of work when it happens to be raining one day mate,where talking quality work.

its not hard to get that kind of paying work its the norm mate, i agree that it takes years of dividing the good from the bad, but if you keep building and building all you are left with is good and the usual wasters that don't last very long. thats all about the weeding out process I would never pay 10 times unless it was com work in the £100+ per hour and paperwork to prove. for that amount of money i could easily achieve as good work if not better building it on my own!! and the monthly turn over would be far greater!!

[Wayne Thomas]

Wayne i don`t canvass i have no need to,if you have the work me and Ronnie are on about how have you got time to.

I don't have the time either. My round is full. I make a point of replacing every lost one with a better paying one.

[NWH]

Wayne do you know how hard it is to get work at 30-£50 an hour,it takes years of graft and clever sifting out of rubbish work allowing time to do the cream.No way could you go out and canvass that kind of work when it happens to be raining one day mate,where talking quality work.

its not hard to get that kind of paying work its the norm mate, i agree that it takes years of dividing the good from the bad, but if you keep building and building all you are left with is good and the usual wasters that don't last very long. thats all about the weeding out process I would never pay 10 times unless it was com work in the £100+ per hour and paperwork to prove. for that amount of money i could easily achieve as good work if not better building it on my own!! and the monthly turn over would be far greater!!

Maybe but like you said it can`t be done overnight even with people doorknocking your going to get some rubbish,with buying it it`s there from day one and you`ll earn it back in no time.

[Wayne Thomas]

Wayne do you know how hard it is to get work at 30-£50 an hour,it takes years of graft and clever sifting out of rubbish work allowing time to do the cream.No way could you go out and canvass that kind of work when it happens to be raining one day mate,where talking quality work.

its not hard to get that kind of paying work its the norm mate, i agree that it takes years of dividing the good from the bad, but if you keep building and building all you are left with is good and the usual wasters that don't last very long. thats all about the weeding out process I would never pay 10 times unless it was com work in the £100+ per hour and paperwork to prove. for that amount of money i could easily achieve as good work if not better building it on my own!! and the monthly turn over would be far greater!!

Maybe but like you said it can`t be done overnight even with people doorknocking your going to get some rubbish,with buying it it`s there from day one and you`ll earn it back in no time.

I agree with the quality of work being there. I just don't agree about paying such large sums unless you're desperate for work.

[NWH]

If i sold my business someone would be making an investment,they wouldn`t be desparate.

[nat]

Wayne do you know how hard it is to get work at 30-£50 an hour,it takes years of graft and clever sifting out of rubbish work allowing time to do the cream.No way could you go out and canvass that kind of work when it happens to be raining one day mate,where talking quality work.

its not hard to get that kind of paying work its the norm mate, i agree that it takes years of dividing the good from the bad, but if you keep building and building all you are left with is good and the usual wasters that don't last very long. thats all about the weeding out process I would never pay 10 times unless it was com work in the £100+ per hour and paperwork to prove. for that amount of money i could easily achieve as good work if not better building it on my own!! and the monthly turn over would be far greater!!

Maybe but like you said it can`t be done overnight even with people doorknocking your going to get some rubbish,with buying it it`s there from day one and you`ll earn it back in no time.

not 10 times the amount though, say the work was worth 1k a month, if the asking price was 10k i could easily get together a round paying a grand in 2 weeks, then by adding over a period of say 20 weeks i would have a very stable round worth 5k that will be achieveing £40-£50 plus an hour. i find with all new work you will hold onto 50% long term and i'm talking well paying customers running over the 12 month point. for 10k i would build a much more lucrative round than a grand!! more effort but not much compared to the rewards!!

[ronnie paton]

nat seriously if its that easy do you fancy doing some canvassing for me??

[NWH]

nat seriously if its that easy do you fancy doing some canvassing for me??

lol if it was easy we wouldn`t have so many people questioning what could be earn`t and why there not earning it.

[nat]

it is as easy as that ronnie and thanks for the offer but i'm sorted mate cheers!!!!

[Davo]

90% of my work is fortnightly here in Paisley thats why we fly round them so quick but also thats why the prices arent the greatest either. Darren.

Why dont you (and anyone else who cleans fortnightly) change the call frequency from 2 to 4 weekly?

If you are charging £3.50 a fortnight (£1.75 a week) keep the rate at £1.75 a week but call every 4 weeks and charge £7.00. From what ive learnt on here it wont take any longer to clean on a 4 week cycle as it does on a 2 week cycle.

Or am I talking nonsense???

Mark

[Moderator David@stives]

Mark

If the customer wants 2 weeks, they want 2 weeks.

Dave

[Davo]

Mark

If the customer wants 2 weeks, they want 2 weeks.

Dave

But the customer who wants every 2 weeks is costing you money IMO, surely all these 2 weekly customers havent requested 2 weeks.

Is it not a case of "well thats how its always been done"?


Mark

[Londoner]

Mark

If the customer wants 2 weeks, they want 2 weeks.

Dave

I have never encountered a customer who wants two weeks, even four weeks is rare although I have a few.

I am a firm believer in the principle you clean less often but charge more. It works for me.