[NWH]

I use a mono filament brush all the time and it`s a salmon with bristles that arn`t available anymore in the particular brush that i use,i use the cleantech brush on downstairs work and with that brush i tilt and rinse half on half off.With the salmon brush for tops i rinse on the glass,the ionics brush is a totally different brush to the one i use daily.

[[GQC] Tim]

Thanks Wayne, that's exactly what I ment. 

Thanks NWH for the answers. Sucks that particular Salmon isn't available anymore.

So what do you think causes the spotting? Trapped dirt in the bristles? Not properly jetting water? Maybe need to up the flowrate?

[Wayne Thomas]

Thanks Wayne, that's exactly what I ment. 

Thanks NWH for the answers. Sucks that particular Salmon isn't available anymore.

So what do you think causes the spotting? Trapped dirt in the bristles? Not properly jetting water? Maybe need to up the flowrate?

The main cause for spots is not using enough water if rinsing with brush on. It is easier to rinse brush on with a mono filament than a flocked though because they don't trap the dirt in the bristles so easily. Because the flocked bristles sit on the glass, they just lightly agitate the dirt whereas the mono ones splay against the glass and remove the dirt easier whilst scrubbing the glass more thoroughly, so easier to rinse.

[[GQC] Tim]

Yea I can understand that, but what I can't understand is, that a brush can cause spotting. What would make that brush spot, and another one not? (Serious question). I mean, okay it doesn't splay aswell with cold, but that can't be the cause?

Makes me wonder if the brush wasn't contaminated somehow. (Not having a dig at you NWH)

[NWH]

Yea I can understand that, but what I can't understand is, that a brush can cause spotting. What would make that brush spot, and another one not? (Serious question). I mean, okay it doesn't splay aswell with cold, but that can't be the cause?

Makes me wonder if the brush wasn't contaminated somehow. (Not having a dig at you NWH)

I find that when using the ionics brush on painted frames it causes problems ie (spotting) because it digs out all the rubbish round the edges and makes it more hassle for rinsing cos of more debris on the glass,a slightly softer brush tends to be less aggresive on the paintwork therefore less bits to rinse away.Like i said it`s ok on PVC window`s but stay away from wooden ones with it if i were you,and as for my flowrate it`s good as with my brush i rinse on the glass as you know especially upstairs.

[steven ainger]

i agree with that as well. i use the ionics brush, cold, and think its good on upvc, but when i do painted windows i ve got a cleantech brush set up  on another pole, and on my hybrid ive the cleaning spot dual trim as its not so stiff as the ionics and that seems ok for most windows.

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[[GQC] Tim]

These guys have 3 crinkle old Ionic multipole brushes left in stock, gotta call em or email them! I bought one to check it out.

http://www.windowcleaningsupplies.net/prod_show.asp?id=113

[steven ainger]

ive got one of those, its rubbish. the bristles get tangled up and block the jets and the whole brush loses its shape after a while, ive tried putting it in hot water to make it go back to its correct shape, but that didnt work either. 

[steven ainger]

sorry about the size of picture, dont know how to re-size

[xxmattyxx]

there you are


right click your mouse over my picture and click on save picture location, change the picture location of your picture to the one in my post.

[steven ainger]

how do you do that please,

[macmac]

Personaly i think it has a lot to do with how the bristles retain water & how good the flow is through them.
I tried a crinkle mono & the bristles were actually water repellent, the brush was bone dry after use. so for rinsing you were actually only using 2 x 2mm jets of water as the bristles held no water in them at all. The results were rubbish.
The vikan mono does have a minor issue of being a tad too stiff IMO, but is an excellent all round brush, it retains enough water to clean well & if jetted correctly allows a perfect flow. I've used mine for around 10/11 months & never changed back to anything else yet. the vikan mono does get better the more you use it mind.
The vikan flocked is also a top brush IMO, both are better when the excess plastic stock is trimmed off them too. Only rectangular ones though, i'm not fond of any oval brush!

Tony

[xxmattyxx]

how do you do that please,

Use this

http://www.picresizer.com/download/PicResizer.exe

[[GQC] Tim]

Aaaargh, this is just rubbish seriously. 100 people have 100 different opinions on brushes. Ridiculous. How can you be a starter with wfp, and sort through out all this?

New Ionics brush isn't good, get the old one was said, then somebody posts here with the old one, saying it's rubbish. Well atleast I've got 3 brushes to try out when I start lol.

[NWH]

If you want to play it safe i would say get a yellow cleantech for downstairs and a mono brush for upstairs,with the mono it`s easier for rinsing on upstairs as the mono will retain lees dirt in the bristles.You`ll be playing it safe with these 2 brushes and if i`d have known this from the start i would have saved over £450 on brushes in the past.

[[GQC] Tim]

Okay, I do have the mono Vikan already, I'll give the Cleantech brush a go. Thanks NWH.

[BUFTON]

On a vikan brush do you preferr pencil jets or fan jets?.....tee.hee!

[edd]

Steven thats not the new brush mate this one is and its nearly a year old and still excellent  no spots no
problems with it at all .....but the old brush was mega crap i will agree mate

[steven ainger]

ive got that brush to and i like it, the crinkle is only 6 months old, i dont know if they still sell them or if its just old stock