[groundhog]

I have all type of work on my round, from small bungalows to huge mansions, and even bigger care homes. But the same applies to all of them, I stop my van, get out, pick up my pole and walk from window to window, when I have finished I walk back and reel in the hose, how could a backpack possibly make that any easier?

When I used the backpack, I would do the same except I had about 20 ltrs of water weighing me down, and I would have to make regular trips back to the van to refill, not a good way to work if you ask me!!!!

[matt]

tbh

i dont use a backpack, i ue a trolley with a 25 L barrel in, it only takes 1 min to change over a barrel, so no lost time, i guess it will save time over a van mount, no hose thats caught in a rose bush, not cleaning dog crap of hoses, no hose snagging on anything and everything

i have the space in my van for a van mount, BUT i still cannot see what benefit it will give me over my trolley

[groundhog]

You still haven't explained how you manage to use your back pack without carrying it, unless you have attached a hose reel to it, but then it would be just a very small van mount!!!

you put it on a sack truck, you must have seen the pics on here

Then it is a trolley!!

[groundhog]

tbh

i dont use a backpack, i ue a trolley with a 25 L barrel in, it only takes 1 min to change over a barrel, so no lost time, i guess it will save time over a van mount, no hose thats caught in a rose bush, not cleaning dog crap of hoses, no hose snagging on anything and everything

i have the space in my van for a van mount, BUT i still cannot see what benefit it will give me over my trolley

If it takes 1 minute to change a barrel then that IS lost time!!! how many times do you have to do that in a day, what about the time walking back to the van and then back to the job?

I started off with a trolley, then went on to a back pack, and have had my van mount for about 2 years now, and theres no way I would consider going back to trolleys or backpacks!!!

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

Groundhog,

I respect YOUR opinion.  But you are out of order in this thred

1. The thred is entitled "Question for fellow backpackers"
You are not a fellow backpacker

2.  I DID NOT ask whether I should use a backpack or not :
I asked a technical question about my backpack.

So, unless you have any constructive advise.  I would respectfully ask you to:
SOD OFF

It is unnecessary remarks like yours that upset this forum

David

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

Bear,

Thanks for that. I'll take a look tomorrow night.  Mind you try getting to the adjuster screw on a backpack : :

Jeff,

That's another thought I had.  I've wacked it on full bore with the pole held lower than the backpack but still the same.  Any Ideas how to shift the air lock and cure it?

Thanks
David

[groundhog]

Groundhog,

I respect YOUR opinion.  But you are out of order in this thred

1. The thred is entitled "Question for fellow backpackers"
You are not a fellow backpacker

2.  I DID NOT ask whether I should use a backpack or not :
I asked a technical question about my backpack.

So, unless you have any constructive advise.  I would respectfully ask you to:
SOD OFF

It is unnecessary remarks like yours that upset this forum

David

How rude!!!

I am a fellow backpack user, (a very occasional one!)

If you had any sense you would listen to me and get yourself a van mount like I said, I'm just trying to help!!

By the way you spell thred - T-H-R-E-A-D  

[ronaldo]

Dave ive got a spare b,pack in my garage if your stuck let me no and you can borrow it if you need it to earn a few pennies if yours has to go and be repaired.

[matt]

tbh

i dont use a backpack, i ue a trolley with a 25 L barrel in, it only takes 1 min to change over a barrel, so no lost time, i guess it will save time over a van mount, no hose thats caught in a rose bush, not cleaning dog crap of hoses, no hose snagging on anything and everything

i have the space in my van for a van mount, BUT i still cannot see what benefit it will give me over my trolley

If it takes 1 minute to change a barrel then that IS lost time!!! how many times do you have to do that in a day, what about the time walking back to the van and then back to the job?

I started off with a trolley, then went on to a back pack, and have had my van mount for about 2 years now, and theres no way I would consider going back to trolleys or backpacks!!!

Hmmm 4 - 6 times a day, 1 of them will be when i stop for a bite to eat, so thats 5 mins max, dont tell me you dont spend more than 5 mins a day with a snagged hose

i start my day by placing a barrel at the house i know i will need it, which helps in the time scale

[groundhog]

tbh

Hmmm 4 - 6 times a day, 1 of them will be when i stop for a bite to eat, so thats 5 mins max, dont tell me you dont spend more than 5 mins a day with a snagged hose

i start my day by placing a barrel at the house i know i will need it, which helps in the time scale

No I don't and I don't stop for a bite to eat either! Thats for wimps, I eat on the run!!

[jeff1]

Bear,

Thanks for that. I'll take a look tomorrow night.  Mind you try getting to the adjuster screw on a backpack : :

Jeff,

That's another thought I had.  I've wacked it on full bore with the pole held lower than the backpack but still the same.  Any Ideas how to shift the air lock and cure it?

Thanks
David

If I think about it Dave, like I said it only happens on mine when the tank is empty, I was wondering if the filter could have a partial blockage, thats another pain in the rear to get to, but worth a look.
Regarding an air lock, take off the battery case and get to the piping inside, Have a look for any leaks or for the inlet side sucking air, if not switch it on and squeeze the tubing to prime it pipes.

This is what is says in the manual:-
Problem
Pump operates but cycles or will not shut off when wand handle is released.
Check
Open the spray tip slightly until the pump stops cycling. Turn off pump, bleed system pressure.
disconnect spray lance from handle and check that the spring loaded plunger in the handle is free from debris.

Check all discharge hose connections, including connection at pump for leaks.

The word lance in our case referes to the pole.
HTH

[matt]

tbh

Hmmm 4 - 6 times a day, 1 of them will be when i stop for a bite to eat, so thats 5 mins max, dont tell me you dont spend more than 5 mins a day with a snagged hose

i start my day by placing a barrel at the house i know i will need it, which helps in the time scale

No I don't and I don't stop for a bite to eat either! Thats for wimps, I eat on the run!!

i allways stop for a few mins for lunch, i like to eat with nice cean hands, so i clean my hands, eat my lunch and then do my half days paperwork of course thats taken my 10 mins of my day

[groundhog]

tbh

Hmmm 4 - 6 times a day, 1 of them will be when i stop for a bite to eat, so thats 5 mins max, dont tell me you dont spend more than 5 mins a day with a snagged hose

i start my day by placing a barrel at the house i know i will need it, which helps in the time scale

No I don't and I don't stop for a bite to eat either! Thats for wimps, I eat on the run!!

i allways stop for a few mins for lunch, i like to eat with nice cean hands, so i clean my hands, eat my lunch and then do my half days paperwork of course thats taken my 10 mins of my day

I would have cleaned a £15 house in that time!!

[mark dew]

Hi Mark, I'm glad I make you laugh!! But I haven't got a clue what the rest of your post is about, it makes no sense!! How can your best earning days be due to filling up 25 ltr barrels. If you run out of water on your van mount you need a bigger tank, obvious really!!!

i have a 400 litre tank and that is enough when i'm refilling a barrel. I plug the trolley into it sometimes, other times i just use a flojet pump without a varistream. I have also used a flow controller to turn off the water. I have a submersible pump in the tank and carry just the 1 barrel and that is filling while i am back knocking or leaving a leaflet.
The reason why i earn more using the trolley detached is that i get more work done with the 400 litres than i do when i use a van mount, with or without a varistream.
I haven't said it was faster but i can do 2 semis with 1 barrel and generally can turn the water right down so i finish the area rather than go back to do 1 or 2 the next day.
That is why i have earnt more with trolley rather than van mount.  

[groundhog]

Hi Mark, I'm glad I make you laugh!! But I haven't got a clue what the rest of your post is about, it makes no sense!! How can your best earning days be due to filling up 25 ltr barrels. If you run out of water on your van mount you need a bigger tank, obvious really!!!

i have a 400 litre tank and that is enough when i'm refilling a barrel. I plug the trolley into it sometimes, other times i just use a flojet pump without a varistream. I have also used a flow controller to turn off the water. I have a submersible pump in the tank and carry just the 1 barrel and that is filling while i am back knocking or leaving a leaflet.
The reason why i earn more using the trolley detached is that i get more work done with the 400 litres than i do when i use a van mount, with or without a varistream.
I haven't said it was faster but i can do 2 semis with 1 barrel and generally can turn the water right down so i finish the area rather than go back to do 1 or 2 the next day.
That is why i have earnt more with trolley rather than van mount.  

Like I said you need a bigger tank!!!

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

Bear,

Thanks for that. I'll take a look tomorrow night.  Mind you try getting to the adjuster screw on a backpack : :

Jeff,

That's another thought I had.  I've wacked it on full bore with the pole held lower than the backpack but still the same.  Any Ideas how to shift the air lock and cure it?

Thanks
David

If I think about it Dave, like I said it only happens on mine when the tank is empty, I was wondering if the filter could have a parcial blockage, thats another pain in the rear to get to, but worth a look.
Regarding an air lock, take off the battery case and get to the piping inside, Have a look for any leaks or for the inlet side sucking air, if not switch it on and squeeze the tubing to prime it pipes.

This is what is says in the manual:-
Problem
Pump operates but cycles or will not shut off when wand handle is released.
Check
Open the spray tip slightly until the pump stops cycling. Turn off pump, bleed system pressure.
disconnect spray lance from handle and check that the spring loaded plunger in the handle is free from debris.

Check all discharge hose connections, including connection at pump for leaks.

The word lance in our case referes to the pole.
HTH

Thanks Jeff,

I bunged the manual in the botton of the box : : :  Bit like that with manuals i'm affraid :

Dave ive got a spare b,pack in my garage if your stuck let me no and you can borrow it if you need it to earn a few pennies if yours has to go and be repaired.

Thanks Ronaldo..........do you want to SELL it?....................
Doh...........Maybe not.  You've got it for the same reason as I want it for.....................................

A SPARE....................DOH :

Thanks
David

[mark dew]

lol
i don't really want a bigger tank cos that will mean a bigger van as well and 400 litres does me nicely. I can earn good money with that amount of water, but my point is and was that it is possible to stretch water even further than anyone using a van mount, with or without flow control valves. Jeff brimble excluded.

[groundhog]

Good for you Mark, but in my opinion stretching out the water that you use means working slower, I use a high flow rate which allows me to work at maximum speed and still do a good job! Anyway if your happy with the way that your working then thats great, I'm just trying to give you the benefit of my experiences.

[LWC]

hiya bud, it sounds to me like your pressure switch does need adjuting, its not as hard as you may think, theres 2 screws holdint the plate to the backpack, if you cant get away with it, try and just un do the one screw, and the one under the pump dont trun the full way outbecause its a right pain to do. mine doesnt continue to cycle but it does turn on and off...and its well annoying!

and to add to this thread, i now have an employee, we run out of a pug partner, with 400 litres a day. i have 2 van mounts in there and a backpack. since putting the new van mount in there, i havent even used it! the backpack is so good that i just cant be weaned off it. if my employee didnt have a bad back id get him on one to

he works on the front with the van mount and i fly round the back with the backpack. i put my backpack at the back whilst im getting the money, and he fills it up with the other van mount. i never notice filling times, and it doesnt take that long. before i had the other van mount, i had 3 x 25 litre barrels and my full backpack, so 95 litres, and he was on the van mount with 400 litres and i never had to fill up from the big tank! and i usually had water left over, i reakon with me just doing the backs i only used about 80 - 90 litres a day. whislt my employee doing just the fronts was using well over 200...

im not starting a debate on whos is better because ive had em all and use them all. but if you want speed and use less water, backpack is the way forward in my opinion.

my setup is perfect, 1 van mount on the fronts, 1 backpack round the back. superb setup if i dont say so myself lol 

[groundhog]

im not starting a debate on whos is better because ive had em all and use them all. but if you want speed and use less water, backpack is the way forward in my opinion.

How can lugging around 20 ltrs of water on your back all day be the way forward? By the time you've got the thing on your back I would have got round the back and started with my van mount and microbore hose If I wanted to use less water I could simply turn the flow rate down!!!

Using a backpack is a sure way to a bad back!! The best and quickest way to clean windows has got to be a van mount with microbore hose and a lightweight pole!