[LWC]

im not starting a debate on whos is better because ive had em all and use them all. but if you want speed and use less water, backpack is the way forward in my opinion.

How can lugging around 20 ltrs of water on your back all day be the way forward? By the time you've got the thing on your back I would have got round the back and started with my van mount and microbore hose If I wanted to use less water I could simply turn the flow rate down!!!

Using a backpack is a sure way to a bad back!! The best and quickest way to clean windows has got to be a van mount with microbore hose and a lightweight pole!

cant be arsed argueing, i pick my back up like a rucksake, and walk round, i dont get caught on anything. and put it back in the van without getting caught. no "grrr hose caught round the bike, wheelie bin, car wheels...etc" for me

your obviously not as manly as me

[groundhog]

There's nothing manly about a bad back!!

[mark dew]

heeheehee. groundhog is back!

ps david am sorry to have taken part in hijacking your thread a little bit. I hope you get sorted.

[NWH]

There's nothing manly about a bad back!!

I agree,i used mine when i first got it for a morning and that was it back in the shed.That`s 20kilos when full your lifting around allday.I think i`ll stick with pulling a little bit of minibore around allday,it`s a bit lighter.

[LWC]

i only feel it right to end this conversation with blah blah blah blah

[Wayne Thomas]

A useful alternative happy medium between a backpack or van mount would be a trolley. No carrying the water, (just pushing it on wheels for the whimps, (that's me).
Personally I prefer a van mount system but if the need ever arises I would chose to use a trolley for the odd, awkward job or a backpack on wheels.

My last backpack I used, I through over a balcony 4 storeys up because it was so frustrating working so slowly with having to keep filling it up and sorting out flat batteries and pump problems. That day I'd had the last straw and through it over the balcony. It was the best move I ever made but I don't recommend throwing them from height like I did because they never work again,lol.

[groundhog]

i only feel it right to end this conversation with blah blah blah blah

Highly intelligent post!!!!

[groundhog]

My last backpack I used, I through over a balcony 4 storeys up

The best thing for them, nice one!!!

[BVC]

groundhog, I do 4k a month on domestic work 16x250 a day, (average 20 jobs @ 12 pounds each. with one backpack and 10 barrells of water in the back of my van. Ive had the same pack and pole for 3 years. Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack? (The answer you are looking for Is NO!)
And by the way If I want an Ionic or Brodex or any other vanmount system I could go and buy it cash. I choose not to and I am more than happy with that decision.

[windowwashers]

groundhog, I do 4k a month on domestic work 16x250 a day, (average 20 jobs @ 12 pounds each. with one backpack and 10 barrells of water in the back of my van. Ive had the same pack and pole for 3 years. Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack? (The answer you are looking for Is NO!)
And by the way If I want an Ionic or Brodex or any other vanmount system I could go and buy it cash. I choose not to and I am more than happy with that decision.

good one you BVC, if it works well why change it, I have never used a back pack myself as I have a van mount, but fair play to you matey 

Ian

[LWC]

groundhog, I do 4k a month on domestic work 16x250 a day, (average 20 jobs @ 12 pounds each. with one backpack and 10 barrells of water in the back of my van. Ive had the same pack and pole for 3 years. Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack? (The answer you are looking for Is NO!)
And by the way If I want an Ionic or Brodex or any other vanmount system I could go and buy it cash. I choose not to and I am more than happy with that decision.

superb mate

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

hey...he aint called groundhog for no reason......its the same post every day .

but i agree with him.....if your work is suited to van mount then it would be easier and more cost effective.

but, if your work is suited to backpacks then it would be easier and more cost effective.

hey this condition  is catchin.

[groundhog]

Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack?

All of the above!!!!!!! 

[groundhog]

And by the way If I want an Ionic or Brodex or any other vanmount system I could go and buy it cash. I choose not to and I am more than happy with that decision.

I wouldn't advise anyone to buy one of those systems!! Total rip off as far as I'm concerned!! I use a groundhog system, a second hand tank, a pump box taken off of my old trolley, a 100mtr reel of microbore and a brodex pole, probably didn't cost much more than your backpack set up. Mind you I also have a backpack in my van, but because the van mount is quicker and easier to use I rarely take it out of the van!!

[groundhog]

groundhog, I do 4k a month on domestic work 16x250 a day, (average 20 jobs @ 12 pounds each.

I don't have many jobs that cheap, but I reguarly do 30+ jobs a day! Mind you if I used a backpack I would probably only manage to do 20 as well!! 

[groundhog]

heeheehee. groundhog is back!

Back with a vengence!!

[BVC]

Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack?

All of the above!!!!!!! 

Groundhog, ive been reading a fantastic book on cognitive restructuring. theres a great chapter that deals with the subject of transference. What some people do (usually because there not getting any) is take all the negative emotions and thoughts they have toward themselves and "transfer" them onto someone else in a somewhat shallow effort to make themselves feel better. Its a good idea to take stock of any issues one may have in their lives and deal with them head on, rather than antagonise innocent bystanders.

"Just trying to give you the benefit of my experiences"

And by the way, my dad could well have your dad!!

[groundhog]

Groundhog, ive been reading a fantastic book on cognitive restructuring. theres a great chapter that deals with the subject of transference. What some people do (usually because there not getting any) is take all the negative emotions and thoughts they have toward themselves and "transfer" them onto someone else in a somewhat shallow effort to make themselves feel better. Its a good idea to take stock of any issues one may have in their lives and deal with them head on, rather than antagonise innocent bystanders.

"Just trying to give you the benefit of my experiences"

And by the way, my dad could well have your dad!!

Sounds like a crap book to me, I'd stick to the Beano if I were you!!
Anyway I was just answering the mans question, I had never used any of those words!

By the way my Dads well hard, just like me!!!

[groundhog]

Game set and match to Groundhog!!!! 

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack?

All of the above!!!!!!! 

Groundhog, ive been reading a fantastic book on cognitive restructuring. theres a great chapter that deals with the subject of transference. What some people do (usually because there not getting any) is take all the negative emotions and thoughts they have toward themselves and "transfer" them onto someone else in a somewhat shallow effort to make themselves feel better. Its a good idea to take stock of any issues one may have in their lives and deal with them head on, rather than antagonise innocent bystanders.

"Just trying to give you the benefit of my experiences"

And by the way, my dad could well have your dad!!

  well put