[Feen]

Luke said "WFP has better results than trad without a single doubt, Luke"
Luke also said " and I'm only 18 so how could I have done everything,"
Think about it. As you said Luke, "I think I've come across you before on the forum Feen." Well that's because I post on here.

[[GQC] Tim]

Simon for a start most of the users on here are wfp so it is a little bias in that way, so there will naturally be more complaining from wfp users. Secondly it is obvious when usi g trad methods that you have left streaks but with wfp you have to be more confident ( and have good technique ) that you are leaving the window clean. Luke

Whoever didn't understand that post needs to read it again.....and then again. He didn't say : Simon you left streaks, he said, it's easier to see streaks when your trad. Nothing more, nothing to get annoyed about.

Give Luke a break, he didn't say anything like what you guys made up.

I find Luke's comments on things highly valuable, and even though he might not be right on everything, he does have trad background, and for him comparing the two, he finds wfp definitely does a better job. And washing the frames, and cleaning the window at the same time, and no detergent left on the window, he might be right in saying so. His opinion and he's entitled to have one.

[Mike 108]

Well done G.Q.C.

I had also realised that there had been a misunderstanding with Luke's comments - but chose to take the easy option and not get involved!

"'Respect' man" as Ali G would say.

Mike

[matt]

Also the saftey aspect is the old excuse.
Adam

Our Industry is one of the most dangers jobs in country, (well know fact) that remark is a slap in the face to every window cleaner that is not with us! 

Andy

and its also rubbish

i can assure any1 on here, the reason i use WFP upstairs is SAFETY, nothing more, nothing less, i know i will go home at night after a days graft without being involved in a ladder fall

[matt]

WFP is certainly less CONSISTANT, and on most houses, if you look close enough, you will always find the odd window where there is a little trail of spots, and now and again you will get several of the windows wrong, it happens.

this is so right, the amountof people on here who delude themselves that they do a 100 % spot free clean EVERY clean is amazing

its not allways spot free, you have the risk of that dirty water run leaving a trial of little white spots down the glass, it does happen, people accept it, as they still haev you back  :)BUT make no mistake, its not allways 100%

[[GQC] Tim]

Not always I bet no, but isn't that the case with traditional aswell? On some houses you'd be hard pressed to remove all fly/spider muck. Nobody seems to complain about that?

Or are the spots really that easy to see, or do you have to be a foot away from the glass to see the odd spot?

[matt]

Not always I bet no, but isn't that the case with traditional aswell? On some houses you'd be hard pressed to remove all fly/spider muck. Nobody seems to complain about that?

Or are the spots really that easy to see, or do you have to be a foot away from the glass to see the odd spot?

your right, trad isnt 100 % either, even the best can leave kick lines that are only seen in certain light at certain angles

if you look hard enough, you will find fault in both methods

[macmac]

WFP results can be just the same as a bad trad clean, they can look good straight on but awfull from an angle. cleaned an old painted window once as part of an experiment, it sheeted nicely & looked great when viewed @ 90 degrees. however, move to side & view with some sky reflection & man, it was bad.
Both methods, with the correct tools & skills are equaly as good IMO as far as results are concerned.

Tony

[L.J.Thorpe]

Not always I bet no, but isn't that the case with traditional aswell? On some houses you'd be hard pressed to remove all fly/spider muck. Nobody seems to complain about that?

Or are the spots really that easy to see, or do you have to be a foot away from the glass to see the odd spot?

your right, trad isnt 100 % either, even the best can leave kick lines that are only seen in certain light at certain angles

if you look hard enough, you will find fault in both methods

thats it in one!!(or two actually)and i am with matt on the safety aspect,and before all you trad boys start saying how everyone slags ladders,iam not slagging ladders i just dont use them unless i am completeley (? that dont look right) happy they are safe and as for roof work....no jeffin way if no one is ringing to complain then there is no problem my wfp paranoia is over ,most customers cant see these "problems" any way if they not bothered then should we be??

[L.J.Thorpe]

WFP results can be just the same as a bad trad clean, they can look good straight on but awfull from an angle. cleaned an old painted window once as part of an experiment, it sheeted nicely & looked great when viewed @ 90 degrees. however, move to side & view with some sky reflection & man, it was bad.
Both methods, with the correct tools & skills are equaly as good IMO as far as results are concerned.

Tony

Tony cock on as usual

[matt]

where is sqeaky, he's not allready on the run from the IR is he ?? ? ??

[Captain Scarlet]

You just cant win with some people, but thanks for all the nice comments!! I'll be away for a couple of weeks tomorrow so nobody can misunderstand me !!!!, Luke

[matt]

You just cant win with some people, but thanks for all the nice comments!! I'll be away for a couple of weeks tomorrow so nobody can misunderstand me !!!!, Luke

luke dont take it to heart, its only a forum

[Sir Squeaky]

where is sqeaky, he's not allready on the run from the IR is he ?? ? ??

Sorry guys, trying to deal with the loss of my partner of 9 years and break up of my family.
I've browsed a bit, but couldn't be bothered to think about posting.

For what it's worth...

I don't think wfp does a better job in general.
It's inconsistent, and doesn't look "finished" as it's a wet mess.

Granted, done properly it's more thorough and sometimes I amaze myself, but you can't 100% rely on it.

If you get it wrong with the squeegee it's nothing much.
Get it wrong with wfp and it can be awful.

Don't get me wrong though...
Wfp is easier, usually quicker, and safer, but it doesn't look as neat and impressive as well squeegeed pane.

Pays your money, takes your choice.

[Alex Gardiner]

Sorry to hear that mate.

[windowwashers]

where is sqeaky, he's not allready on the run from the IR is he ?? ? ??

Sorry guys, trying to deal with the loss of my partner of 9 years and break up of my family.
I've browsed a bit, but couldn't be bothered to think about posting.

For what it's worth...

I don't think wfp does a better job in general.
It's inconsistent, and doesn't look "finished" as it's a wet mess.

Granted, done properly it's more thorough and sometimes I amaze myself, but you can't 100% rely on it.

If you get it wrong with the squeegee it's nothing much.
Get it wrong with wfp and it can be awful.

Don't get me wrong though...
Wfp is easier, usually quicker, and safer, but it doesn't look as neat and impressive as well squeegeed pane.

Pays your money, takes your choice.

sorry to hear that also Squeaky.

Wondered why you had been posting lately.

Chin up m8

[Mike 108]

Sounds like you're having a really bad time at the moment (and probably for some time to come). Sorry to hear of your misfortunes.

Thanks for taking the time to reply to the question.

Mike

[Sir Squeaky]

Cheers guys.
It's horrible.

[frames to panes]

Blimey Squeaks, your like a magnet to bad luck! Things can only get better surely. (might take a while though). Your still young, plenty of future to look forward to. Who knows you might even get a tax rebate.

[matt]

where is sqeaky, he's not allready on the run from the IR is he ?? ? ??

Sorry guys, trying to deal with the loss of my partner of 9 years and break up of my family.
I've browsed a bit, but couldn't be bothered to think about posting.

sorry rog, my original post was of course in jest

sorry to hear your news