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davep

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Eco Carpet Care Network
« on: January 30, 2008, 04:06:28 pm »
Are any of you members of the Eco Carpet Care Network?

Do you think you have a good usp going green and using the mini website they offer?

Ta,

Dave

stevegunn

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2008, 04:18:00 pm »
It works for some but not all customers want it they just want a clean carpet using whatever is needed

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 04:34:19 pm »
Eco Carpet Care does VERY well on searches ...........that should be incentive alone  :o

Cost about £100 or so to join now, with no ongoing payments  ;)

If you have no site of yur own then it is a good way into first page in searches........... add link to your site if you already have one.

I have got EVERY job i have priced from ECC enquiry ................. the people who look there are looking for a certain level of service NOT a low level price  8)

davep

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2008, 04:40:12 pm »
Ta lads, i think its £150 now..  I agree with you Steve as when i have mentioned i am using no chemicals i haven't had much interest, like you say they just want it clean..

Do you think people may think you may be more expensive being green, bit like organic food that costs more?

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2008, 04:54:09 pm »
May be a regional thing as i just come off phone whilst reading this .......... called me because of eco angle as the lady has a small child and another on the way.

Did job yesterday for comedian Marcus Brigstocke ............ just been in The Independant newspaper for carrying out a £100k eco friendly extension to his house ............... i only got the call because i am GREEN

People think your eco service will cost more but are happily surprised when it costs around the same ........ more for their money.......... plus the added value in their eyes.

mark_roberts

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2008, 05:14:21 pm »
Maybe people also think eco cleaning will not achieve the clean they require.

I think if you use the line 'no chemicals' it leaves the customer wondering what on earth does he use then.

Mark

spencer davies

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2008, 05:15:52 pm »
I had an Eco carpet care website two years ago, after paying to 'rent' the site for one year, many of the benefits and facilities were taken away.

I received about twelve jobs from the site in a year, we developed our own sites after the above mentioned experience, on one more than one occasion our own site delivered more than twelve leads in one day, it now dominates this area in the rankings.

Personally, I do not trust the person running Eco carpet care, who initially contacted us, asking if we would join his network because the people he had originally signed up in this area were 'incompetent and unreliable' in his own words, interestingly, when we terminated the year long agreement with him, he immediately re signed the same people, which in my opinion suggested that money was his real motive.

Also, on last years carpet cleaners day out, I met other network members who did not only use Eco friendly products, they had made this very clear to the person running the sites, who didn't mind!

I believe its poor performance for us in this area was due to the fact that the way the site has been designed suggests that the site is owned by a National company, which is what people do not want, something else they don't want is a written disclaimer on the site, saying that Eco Carpet Care takes no responsibility for the work carried out by its members........mmmm this would certainly put me off as a potential customer.

Don't forget that the site is NEVER yours, and you will ultimately have very little control with it, this is my opinion.

Get a smart man like Mark Roberts on your side and don't waste time and money  with someone else's site.



Regards


S

*paul_moss

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2008, 05:19:54 pm »
I had an Eco carpet care website two years ago, after paying to 'rent' the site for one year, many of the benefits and facilities were taken away.

I received about twelve jobs from the site in a year, we developed our own sites after the above mentioned experience, on one more than one occasion our own site delivered more than twelve leads in one day, it now dominates this area in the rankings.

Personally, I do not trust the person running Eco carpet care, who initially contacted us, asking if we would join his network because the people he had originally signed up in this area were 'incompetent and unreliable' in his own words, interestingly, when we terminated the year long agreement with him, he immediately re signed the same people, which in my opinion suggested that money was his real motive.

Also, on last years carpet cleaners day out, I met other network members who did not only use Eco friendly products, they had made this very clear to the person running the sites, who didn't mind!

I believe its poor performance for us in this area was due to the fact that the way the site has been designed suggests that the site is owned by a National company, which is what people do not want, something else they don't want is a written disclaimer on the site, saying that Eco Carpet Care takes no responsibility for the work carried out by its members........mmmm this would certainly put me off as a potential customer.

Don't forget that the site is NEVER yours, and you will ultimately have very little control with it, this is my opinion.

Get a smart man like Mark Roberts on your side and don't waste time and money  with someone else's site.



Regards


S

Good post Spencer and makes loads of sence.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2008, 05:20:53 pm »
If your pictures / news are beneficial to the network then they will be used, Spencer was having trouble getting his left on his site.
My own website can show up above ECC in some searches, it is doing me okay with regular 2-3 jobs a month, all for NO outlay  ;D

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2008, 05:23:40 pm »
ps .................... i have also spoken with CC's who do not always use eco products but were using on ECC jobs.

I don't always use allergy products unless asked (for benefit of Paul & Steve  :P) .............. i do not even carry any non eco products these days  ::)

Have to say that the fact that the site is run for no profit now, does lend more confidence  :)

spencer davies

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2008, 05:25:08 pm »
Just one other piece of information, I cleaned a spillage up at the person's house that owns Eco Carpet Care, he had a difficult stain for me to remove, he sent me an e mail saying, 'try to get the stain out, I don't mind if you use non Eco friendly products'   ???

He is a nice enough guy- family man, well educated, but I still feel annoyed that he showed himself to be someone that was not worthy of my trust, which I can't forgive.


S

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 05:29:02 pm »
If you go Green you can make it a win-win situation.

If you were to find a certified green product that you can work effectively with all the time, you will be "killing many birds with one stone"

Your prices would be constant so customers would receive your standard high quality service at your standard, not premium, rate. You would not be harming yourself, your customer, their children/grandchildren or pets with synthetic chemicals. Everyones a winner.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2008, 05:29:40 pm »
Must say that Spencer is solely responsible for the new policy........... saves £500 joining and annual £500 .

Must get you a beer or two at next opportunity  ;)

spencer davies

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2008, 05:31:26 pm »
I totally agree Ken, our own personal sites subscribe to this view, I find Eco Carpet Care a little farcical though.

S

spencer davies

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2008, 05:32:57 pm »
Chris, I will take you up on that, maybe a bit of singing afterwards.  ;D


S

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2008, 05:33:43 pm »
Spencer

Carpet cleaning and stain treatment/removal are two different propositions.

You can use your eco-friendly cleaner for pre-spray,rinse if necessary and as a spotter.  You can use your vegetable distilled alcohols too. But you may need to discuss with your customer that for some stains you may need to revert to traditional solutions (never say Chemical to a customer).

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2008, 05:36:38 pm »
I like to use the word solutions  ;D

*paul_moss

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2008, 05:39:45 pm »
Guys I hope your are staying out on the 6th as I would like to hear more about this, ans also Straker owes me loads of 1664  :o
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

stevegunn

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2008, 05:40:30 pm »
The eco owner asked me to remove his logo from my website (when allergstop member)because I had the audacity to question why would I want to pay for another site when my site was already no1 in my area.Would it guarantee me more work no was the reply so why spend another £500 a year plus running costs?

*paul_moss

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2008, 06:03:15 pm »
Glad I didnt bite on that one Steve. :)
Money saved  ;)
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL