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*paul_moss

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2008, 06:06:42 pm »
ps .................... i have also spoken with CC's who do not always use eco products but were using on ECC jobs.

I don't always use allergy products unless asked (for benefit of Paul & Steve  :P) .............. i do not even carry any non eco products these days  ::)

Have to say that the fact that the site is run for no profit now, does lend more confidence  :)

Chris the product was never an issue, it was good and did what it said on the packet.

Dont know what Steves thoughts are now but I would like to put that behind me, how ever J B seems to want to battle a little further :o , , if he knew the truth  ;)
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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Doug Holloway

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2008, 06:09:27 pm »
Hi Guys

I've got both www.greencarpetcleaning.co.uk and www.greencarpetcleaners.co.uk at the top of searches for Green Carpet Cleaning etc

I am currently in the process of upgrading them.

Without this sounding too much of an advert I may offer space/listing for a small fee, not quite sure which way to play it at present.

Cheers

Doug

*paul_moss

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2008, 06:12:01 pm »
Doug wait till the eve of the 7th and have a auction  :D
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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spencer davies

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2008, 07:40:42 pm »
Sorry Ken, I am not sure that I was clear with my last post.

I was trying to express my surprise that the person owning Eco Carpet Care wasn't concerned about the solutions I was using, as long as the stain came out.


Regards


S

Mark Lane-Matthews

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2008, 01:28:55 am »
Speaking as i find the Ecocarpetcare site has worked very well for me ,the owner has not charged a fee for this year for the site though it still gets me very good leads , the design of the site is outstanding IMO and shows up very well in the search engines . I can only speak for myself in running an honest business, and I  know some  very good established companies who are  with Eco Carpetcare, and also some have moved on .Of course you still need yor own site but the two together gives you a powerful position on the net.
                                         Mark
                           

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2008, 06:33:59 am »
Thats what i meant  ::)

Bennie25

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2008, 10:09:08 pm »
Waters a chemical ::)

I dont find it supprising that the owner said its ok to use non eco products thats because he knows chemestry works best.

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2008, 10:21:58 pm »
Literally, "anything could be used to remove mark as long as it is neutralised and rinsed away with appropriate solution " ;D


Many people will adopt this attitude for own benefit ............... i hear it often  :o

Bennie25

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2008, 10:34:24 pm »
 ;)

Exactly, we should all aim to leave only one thing in a carpet. Water.

Mark Lane-Matthews

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2008, 11:38:47 pm »
Water is a chemical but alternativie  words are advised such as solutions or cleaning products etc as some customers go over the top at the mention of the word chemical.

                                                           Mark

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2008, 11:46:37 pm »
what I do not understand about so called Eco Cleaning is you only put on the equlivent to a pre sray.

Family Pet friendly wool friendly Cleaning companies are able to use a Pre Spray plus an extraction cleaning Agent in the tank therefore increasing the cleaning power over so called Eco companies its a bit like the bait and switch companies that  only have  cold water in the tank.

Yes the product has been tested to be safe for children pets and wool etc

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2008, 06:34:38 am »
My eco banner is run with MS/MP and rinsed with water or now use PureClean for boost if needed.

Do possess some Ultimate Master for heavy trashed communal stuff .......... still comes under Alltec's Healthy Home banner.

Added incentive is using with cold/warm water ................... saves energy from not using HOT water to clean.

Started to add bio fuel to van........... another point that my eco customers have picked up on and gains me more credibility  ;D

Bennie25

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2008, 08:45:35 am »
With regards to the green products there is an alturnitive, Hydramaster do a complete 'Green Range' so you could sell yourself as green and use those also/as well as MS.

By the way 'solution' means a non translucent liquid. So MP is not a solution.

Your science teacher not tell you this.. lol

PS Thats not a critisism, dont take me to seriously just pointing out a interesting fact.

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2008, 01:30:59 pm »
Funny enough......... on friends reunited, my nickname is Absent......... due to times i was !!!
Teacher may have mentioned it on one of the many days i was not there  ::)

Amethyst

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2008, 09:47:09 am »
Thats a good point you make Ken - terminology can make a big difference - I too always avoid the term "chemical" and opt for "solution" instead. It does make an impression on the customer. I used to carry all manner of "solutions" but am steadily reducing the range. Microsplitters seem to work on most things for me. Has anyone tried Chemspecs Ecogent and if so what is the verdict?

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2008, 10:05:27 am »
That said......... M Power does allow some light through its liquid form so is in fact translucent  ;D


" translucent

Partially transparent; permitting light to pass through diffusely. "

CARPET KNIGHTS

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2008, 01:48:46 pm »
Bennie you are wrong this is the definition of solution....

a homogeneous mixture of two or more substances; frequently (but not necessarily) a liquid solution; "he used a solution of peroxide and water"

Has nothing to do with whether light can pass through it or not!

Bennie25

Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2008, 01:46:22 pm »
No you right. Its not very clear cut at all though..  see number 5 does refer to transparency..

But hey im not going to think to long about this.. lol bit over my head..

PROPERTIES OF SOLUTIONS

1The particles of solute are the size of individual small molecules or individual small ions. One nanometer is about the maximum diameter for a solute particle.
2The mixture does not separate on standing. In a gravity environment the solution will not come apart due to any difference in density of the materials in the solution.
3The mixture does not separate by common fiber filter. The entire solution will pass through the filter.
4Once it is completely mixed, the mixture is homogeneous. If you take a sample of the solution from any point in the solution, the proportions of the materials will be the same.
5The mixture appears clear rather than cloudy. It may have some color to it, but it seems to be transparent otherwise. The mixture shows no Tyndall effect. Light is not scattered by the solution. If you shine a light into the solution, the pathway of the light through the solution is not revealed to an observer out of the pathway.
6The solute is completely dissolved into the solvent up to a point characteristic of the solvent, solute, and temperature. At a saturation point the solvent no longer can dissolve any more of the solute. If there is a saturation point, the point is distinct and characteristic of the type of materials and temperature of the solution.
7The solution of an ionic material into water will result in an electrolyte solution. The ions of solute will separate in water to permit the solution to carry an electric current.
8The solution shows an increase in osmotic pressure between it and a reference solution as the amount of solute is increased.
9The solution shows an increase in boiling point as the amount of solute is increased.
The solution shows a decrease in melting point as the amount of solute is increased.
10A solution of a solid non-volatile solute in a liquid solvent shows a decrease in vapor pressure above the solution as the amount of solute is increased.

Len Gribble

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2008, 03:32:33 pm »
If one uses green cleaning agents why cant you just dump your waist in the street its safe ant it so we are told. ;)

Solution is also problem solving. ;D

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Eco Carpet Care Network
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2008, 07:37:25 pm »
Len

The stories I've heard from respected colleagues but not yet from a water authority, is that the problem is not our green or most regular solutions, but the soil we take from our customers carpets :o :o :o

When you think about it, they will take a worst case scenario. There could be blood or other pathogens in the carpet. We do come across some terrible stuff in ouir working lives that we are asked to remove from carpets and other textiles. To allow them to pass untreated into a watercourse or the ground our food grows from would be totally irresponsible.

I also gather that we're not really allowed to wash our cars and allow the water to run into storm drains. Certainly Car Wash facilities have to make other arrangements.

Finally, it was suggested to me in all seriousness, that in our commercial operations, we shouldn't be allowing fresh tapwater to be tipped onto land as this contains chemicals used in making the water hygenic, beneficial to our teeth etc. etc. ???

I firmly believe that the authorities have these regulations knowing that the householder isn't going to polute excessively, but they have the powers in place to take swift action if any person or busininess is creating an unacceptable problem.

A final finally.  Many years ago, the water authority visited every home in our village. Fish were dying in our local stream/river.  The problem turned out to be a (relatively) few householders who had had washing machines and dishwashers fitted which had been drained incorrectly into a storm rather than a foul drain. I was one of the guilty parties. Although everything was done amicably, all the offending householders were rightly given 14 days written notice to get things put right. The River Arrow through Alvechurch is now fine :)

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!