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Andy McGeechan

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Trolley System
« on: January 29, 2008, 06:10:25 pm »
Hi Guys
             I'am thinking of getting a TROLLEY SYSTEM for domestic work, there are a lot of houses I would not get near with a van.Could anybody with experiance of working with a trolley please let me know the pros and cons
                                                              cheers
Andy Mc

matt

Re: Trolley System
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 06:39:40 pm »
i have done for over 4 years now, i have a very compact round that i park the van up once and dont move all day, i feel a trolley suits be great, ive toyed with a van mount and i still cannot see how it would improve my life

<-------- e.mail me for a link to the DIY site, a trolley system for 500 quid is very do-able

Conflagration2000

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 06:50:26 pm »
I need my trolly as I do a lot of my round on the side of a mountain and can't get near some of the properties with the van. The pro's are it's very adaptable to each job although I've got 20 metres of minibore attached to mine so I've a bit more freedom. the cons are replacing the containers, although this is easier once you get used to using the trolly on your round, ie, strategically placing containers at pre-set locations on the round.

ps, I'm lucky that round here no-one nicks your gear. (touch wood)
Just like that

rednick

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 06:54:14 pm »
been using my trolley for about 12 months now, i think its great,sure you have to change barrels every 2 or 3 houses but when youve done it a few times you learn where to place barrels before you start.also get a trigger for your pole,it saves a hell of a lot of water.

Ian W

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 07:01:54 pm »
Andy, do you already use a van mount system? Or are you starting wfp from scratch?

Rednick, is that a trolleybox from wintecs with the 40psi pump and 28ah battery?
I have just ordered one and wondered how you found it?
Do all the good you can, and make as little fuss about it as possible.
Charles Dickens

rednick

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 07:09:45 pm »
box is from wintecs, i think it works great,one charge lasts me about 2 days and ive adapted my trolley so box just pushes in bottom of trolley with water barrel on top.

Ian W

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2008, 07:19:43 pm »
Thanks Rednick. I have a couple of questions, but rather than hijack the post I will send an e-mail if you don't mind?
Do all the good you can, and make as little fuss about it as possible.
Charles Dickens

JSMC

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 07:30:09 pm »
can you tell me how you made your trolley system please

rednick

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 08:30:22 pm »
pump box from wintecs-£120,trolley from b&q-£13,shelf welded on trolley by a mate-£5,hose and connectors from b&q-£15,since picture was taken i have fixed a hose reel on back with 20m of hose-£25.

Andy McGeechan

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 08:34:48 pm »
Andy, do you already use a van mount system? Or are you starting wfp from scratch?

Rednick, is that a trolleybox from wintecs with the 40psi pump and 28ah battery?
I have just ordered one and wondered how you found it?

      Dont have a van system mate. but i bought a domestic one to try.
       needs access to an outside tap, takes ages to set up.

Andy Mc

johnny_h

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 08:51:28 pm »
get a freedom trolly if you decide you want to have a tank later link it to the trolly and leave it in the van that way you will always have the choice of either i sometimes link 2 barrels in the back of the van getting 50 ltrs of water to work with
AUDI VIDE TACE

mark dew

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2008, 09:10:28 pm »
As most people have said it is a pain using containers and if you can avoid it do so. If you get the trolley and have room for a water tank, buy a battery and a 12v submersible pump so you can top up. You will only need 1 barrel then.
A reel of hose and you have a van mount which is powered by the trolley.
1 tip that will make any trolley users life easier is when you buy a pole, make sure you ask for an extra 10 - 15 metres of pole hose instead of the normal length hose that comes with it. You will then be able to position the trolley in 1 or 2 places and work away from it to finish most houses. It will wrap easily around the trolley handle when not in use. Without extra pole hose you will need to re-position the trolley evry couple of windows or so.
The freedom trolley is a good one although scrim shady sells similar which looks good too.

brightnclean

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 09:16:29 pm »
get a freedom trolly if you decide you want to have a tank later link it to the trolly and leave it in the van that way you will always have the choice of either

Excellent idea. You are armed for almost anything then. I have van mounts each with a Freedom trolley as well in the van. We use the trollies on their own around 50% of the time.

Darren O

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2008, 09:46:38 pm »
Mark how do you turn the water on and off when your using 10-15mtrs of pole hose with your trolley.cheers Darren

brett walker

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2008, 10:16:28 pm »
 8) freedom trolley  8) for me, built to last by engineers and also can be used as a van mount


 d i y trolley save your self a few quid  8)

 back pack cheap & cheerful  8) :-\

all depends on what you want to pay and which is best suited for your work

Brett

mark dew

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2008, 10:31:08 pm »
Mark how do you turn the water on and off when your using 10-15mtrs of pole hose with your trolley.cheers Darren

darren i used to use these http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Flow_Control_Valves.html but the switch thing broke and i just walk back to the trolley to turn off now.
I don't really think it is worth getting anything for the sake of 15 metres or a few seconds walk when using the trolley on its own. But when i use the trolley as a van mount and microbore i do waste more water unnecessarily. I'm going to get one of those pneumatic triggers that will go on the end of the pole. I'm not sure of the name.

Darren O

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2008, 11:00:24 pm »
Cheers mate

Conflagration2000

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2008, 11:08:38 pm »
Mark how do you turn the water on and off when your using 10-15mtrs of pole hose with your trolley.cheers Darren

darren i used to use these http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Flow_Control_Valves.html but the switch thing broke and i just walk back to the trolley to turn off now.
I don't really think it is worth getting anything for the sake of 15 metres or a few seconds walk when using the trolley on its own. But when i use the trolley as a van mount and microbore i do waste more water unnecessarily. I'm going to get one of those pneumatic triggers that will go on the end of the pole. I'm not sure of the name.

I used to be a Fireman (25 years) and used to service a lot of aircraft fire extinguishers I found an old 10kg co2 extension pole with an on off valve and have adapted that. I changed the two o rings and it works a treat. I think you waste a lot of precious water if you don't have a means of control at the pole.
Just like that

mark dew

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Re: Trolley System
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2008, 11:27:40 pm »
With a trolley you're never far away to turn off quickly but my van mount (when the trolley is not plugged into tank) has no varistream and i would like to try a shut off trigger that is attached to the pole and see how that is.
The other flow control valves i used got broken because i didn't have a holster for it and it used to drag acroos the ground.
I see varitech sells these but i can't see a price in their catalogue. There are several people on here who uses the trigger and have posted pictures.