[JJdomestics]

Can anyone tell me if I have to pay one of my ladies christmas day and boxing day. I dont usually work bank holidays but its never really been an issue until now

[steve doyle]

I think you are going to be asked for a bit more info regarding the circumstances.

[JJdomestics]

Sorry. She works 4 days per week Tues, wed, thurs and fridays. She has worked for me for about 7 months. I dont pay bank holidays but she is kicking up a stink

[DREAM CLEAN]

Hi,

If they are part time they are entitled to some holiday, so pay them but deduct it from their holiday entitlement

Nick

[JJdomestics]

She has said she wants it paid holiday and not deducted from the holiday entitlement.

[HQCS (John Kastrian)]

If she normally works tue/wed/th/fr and Christmas day and Boxing day would have been her normal working days if they were not bank holidays,I would think you would have to pay her and any other staff,this would have been taken into account when quoting for the contract.
You say you don't pay bank holidays,is this clearly stated in her contract of employment?
Put yourself in her shoes,would you be happy losing half your wages just because Jesus decided to be born on Christmas day.
If she is a good cleaner and you value her services you know what you need to do- -John

[garyj]

If she has the holiday entitlement left and wants to take it off you have to pay her. If she has worked for you for 7 months and hasnt had any holiday yet she is due around 2 weeks paid leave.

Have a look back about a month or so, someone posted a link to a website that works out the holiday entitlement for you, either by days or hours. Think the post was started by Lisa1234 if that helps.

[JJdomestics]

Hi

I don't mind paying her as long as she takes it as holiday but she wants me to pay her and keep her holiday entitlement the same.

[garyj]

LOL, tell her tough  .

[glenda hollis]

Here is the answer http://www.tuc.org.uk/economy/tuc-7441-f0.cfm

On a previous post i attempted to highlight the somewhat unattractiveness of being a cleaner working for a small company, however the replies were that i was running down the industry. I wasn't, and as this thread shows, for whatever the reasons behind it, working for a small cleaning company is not all that attractive. I agree with the comments that suggest that if your lady is a hard worker and you value her then listen to what she is asking. Exactly how much in £££'s is she asking for?

[JJdomestics]

Thanks for that. It works out to be £84 for the 3 days holiday.

[Art]

Hi

I don't mind paying her as long as she takes it as holiday but she wants me to pay her and keep her holiday entitlement the same.

Have you already told her no?


Staff making demands like this and getting them is a no no and only gets them thinking that they can do as they please.

[JJdomestics]

I have said we will talk about it tomorrow. I wanted to make sure I am doing the right thimng first as I dont want to loose her but like you said I can't let her demand pay either. There is no way I can afford to pay bank holidays at the moment.

[glenda hollis]

OK, is she your only member of staff, how much do you value her (has she been a good employer etc), can you afford the £84? Art is perfectly correct, you do run the risk of staff thinking they can dictate to you, but its a toss-up really, isnt it, between seeing her point and making the job seem as attractive as the next job that she may already be applying for, and making sure that the lunatics dont take over the asylum (forgive the expression). Although 7 months is not a long period of time, it is more than long enough for someone who is going to cause you trouble to show her true colours. I am assuming from what you say that she's never caused you a problem so far?

[Art]

I have said we will talk about it tomorrow. I wanted to make sure I am doing the right thimng first as I dont want to loose her but like you said I can't let her demand pay either. There is no way I can afford to pay bank holidays at the moment.

Well there's your answer.
Tell her you value her as an employee, but you are not prepared to pay her if she's not working.
Is there any other work you could offer her to make up for what she's going to lose?

As far as not wanting to lose her goes and i'm sure everyone on here that employees staff will agree.
When you start making your staff feel like you need them more than they need you. Your asking for trouble.

Arthur

[JJdomestics]

No far from it she has been a star bit if i do pay it how can i put it that I wont be paying it again so dont bother beng awkward again. I can see her point but she will get paid anyway ? AGGGGRRRRR far too much brain work for this time of night. :-(

[glenda hollis]

Agreed Art. But what would you do in a situation where you DO need the staff more than they need you and suddenly you find that they've left?

[glenda hollis]

Regardless of how you can ill afford to pay this, regardless of what your personal opinion is, is it fair to say that your 'star' is being awkward? Are you sure she will still be wanting to work for you come the next bank holiday? And what about next christmas when you have more staff and find yourself in the same situation? I think one option is to consider that you pay this one employee (i assume she is your only staff member?) the christmas pay that she is asking for and continue to do so for as long as she works for you, which probably wont be for ever. Point out this does not apply to any other bank holiday. You can then learn from this and make sure that all future employees are aware that the bank holidays are taken from holiday pay. As said before, was this not all in writing at the start?

[Art]

Agreed Art. But what would you do in a situation where you DO need the staff more than they need you and suddenly you find that they've left?

It's never happened, but i certainly wouldn't let anyone tell me what i was going to pay them

[glenda hollis]

Not to be picky Art, but maybe the lady was simply asking, not telling. All we know is she is 'kicking up a stink' but that could mean 101 different things. What i cannot undrestand is why this was not agreed when the woman started work.