[lee_gundry]

with more & more carpet/upholstery cleaners now using micro splitters,which brand do you use?

[gwrightson]

looking at the poll results so far.
is it poosible the price has some thing to do with it ?
or can all you people tell a difference, i cant
please tell me how if you can
geoff

[strakercleaning]

Cost is my main factor..........we are in business to make money and every little bit helps.
Never tried any other microsplitters because..........Solutions sent me a FREE sample pack    No one else offered such a thing and as a result i now use the product. This approach and the customer service mean that i do not need to look elsewhere. Once treated in such a way then who would look elsewhere for a product that does the same and arrives in a similar time but costs more

[shaun_pearson]

i too have just got a sample pack from solutions.......£15+vat.  whats going on nick as you seem to be charging some of us for a sample and giving it to others. 

how do you guys find it on cost compared with a detergent?

solution no.2 10l is £30+vat+delivery  dilute at 1/10

prochem extraction pro is £7+vat pick it up local  dilute 1/100

am i missing something as solutions seem to cost a lot more?

[paul@ctcs]

Number 2 is not an extraction solution but a pre spray so only small amounts are needed.

[garyj]

I think the best thing about microsplitters is that I can confidently walk into a customers house and remove nearly all stains and marks with very little to cart about and very small risk of damage. I use a half decent portable machine, and I think I can get as good results as anyone else using solutions, and I've only been c/c a year. They are also very easy to use, and I've never heard of anyone causing damage using them.
I paid for my trial pack too, but it was worth every penny, its nothing compared to all the detergents & chemicals I have sitting in the garage, most likely never to be used again.

[Martin Sambrook]

where do you get micro splitters from ie website, phone number etc
thanks

[shaun_pearson]

yes paul i know its a prespray, but i still think it would work out a lot more expensive.

i have just cleaned a large suite and i used 0.6l of no.2, does that sound excessive?  i was happy with the result and so was the customer which is of course important.

with the remainder of my 1l trial bottle i cleaned  of my two seaters and i cleaned the other with haitian cotton cleaner, i could see no difference and niether could the missus.  as i was cleaning the sofas i thought solutions were winning but  when finished and dry they both looked as good.  the solutions clean would have cost me about 10 times more than the chemspec product.

[John_Flynn]

Shaun

But solutions would not cause damage to your respiritory system!!

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys,

I think the reason Solution is Beating One step 3:1 is that Nick is pushing much harder - better marketing.

Cheers,

Doug

[nick.solution]

Hi Shaun

You only pay delivery on small orders, Nobody delivers for free, some just include delivery in the price we offer a choice. trial packs are offered free from time to time,

I note you suggest a dilution of 1-10, why not try diluting higher it will dilute 1-20

if used correctly microsplitters work our far cheaper and more importantly much much SAFER than conventional chemicals,

Best regards Nick

[Ken Wainwright]

For myself, I use OneStep Fineline for virtually everything, synthetic as well as wool. I've used Solutions No2 and found it excellent, and wouldn't like to say if it's better or worse than other brands as I can't honestly tell. But for the way I work with my equipment, I get on better with the OneStep Fineline rather than Solutions No.4.  I feel again that the cleaning performance is inseperable, but the agitation is easier with Fineline for me with my equipment.

For my approach to business, I find what works for me then charge accordingly, so cost isn't an important factor and chemical costs within our sector of the industry is very low anyway. Plus I don't pay list price for my goods. As for micro splitting spotters, I think Eco Spotter is really rather good. Or should I say superbly fantastic. So is the No3 sample I have but, to be honest with Eco. to hand there is little need for No3 if I use my own 1:3 regular spotting mix. As for service, who's the best? Wouldn't like to say except that if everyone offered the same standard asmy suppliers and Solutions UK there would never be any complaints

Safe and happy cleaning:)
Ken

[woodman]

Can we all just agree that both products are very good, both offer good service and that choosing between the two is down to personal preference

I keep No 2 & No4 handy at all times along with eco-spotter and no 3
but also one or two other brands for red wine,tanning etc.I also have Fineline which I will use on upholstery.I can not see any difference between the two and I am quite happy using either I like the fact that both are very safe to use for customer and cleaner alike.

As for cost I make mine go a long way but find the Solugard to be expensive in comparison to other protectors.

[strakercleaning]

I think i got my sample free as a joining promotion for ANOTHER FORUM
I still use the Solutions but not the forum

[mark_roberts]

Shaun

I would usually use 1-2 litres for an average suite (pre-spray) with a fresh water rinse on most occasions.

I would never just clean with a detergent in the tank and no pre-spray as the results are inferior IMO except under furniture which doesnt see the light of day.

I use solutions due to it being cheaper.  If I thought one step was better then I'd buy it.  As Ken says chemical cost is nothing.

Mark

[paul@ctcs]

Regarding cost, the fact acidic rinse is not needed with micro splitter is an instant saving. I clean some really grubby commercial carpets and did use prochem high force then acidic rinse which i was really happy with, I have more recently changed over to Solutions heavy duty which works out cheaper, less messing about, no risk of leaving residue and believe it or not ( sceptics wont )gets better results.

 This stuff really is the business!!

Paul

[*paul_moss]

I now use micro splitters and they are cost effective.
If use use the wrong concintrations and over spray then you will use more product.
However if the fabric is very heavily soiled then you will use more, but must price accordingly.

FROM MY EXPERIENCE ONLY THE USE OF M/S  TAKES  TIME TO GET RIGHT BUT ONCE DONE IT IS SUPERB

Paul

[Len Gribble]

Doug

Been looking at the latest C&M mag and CHT cant see any mention/pictures of Solutions, great marketing Nick?

Ken

Lost a bit on agitation is easier etc, can you elaborate?

Shaun P

I also had to pay for mine, that’s life! By the way I do find it cheaper using M/S

Len

[Peter_Blackburn]

Hi,

Drank the remainder of my batch, absolutely crap stuff, wouldn't wash a dog in it.


Cheers
Pete

[paul@ctcs]

Peter,
Your doing something wrong

Paul

P.S, Brings the dog up a treat