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S.A.J

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Paul Coleman

Re: petition
« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2007, 10:00:00 am »
read again Jeff :o
As I understand it Pj
Twelve thousand five hundred and nineteen forum members, 100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

I just can't for the life of me understand why so few have signed the petition? Ok we could cut the fiigure down some what, due to the fact, it affects us w/c and not cleaners on the other section, even if we cut the figure down by half, that would still leave 6,250 members, lets cut that in half again, and say the other half are Trad? That still leaves us with 3,125 ish. and we have 100 signatures.

If I was the prime minister I would  ban w/cleaning as a priority with such a poor response.

With a response like that he will probably ban it even when water isn't in short supply.

Chris Cottrell

  • Posts: 3162
Re: petition
« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2007, 08:58:41 pm »
 Bump


Also emailed this to customers, friends & family       3 or 4 so far

Chris Cottrell

  • Posts: 3162
Re: petition
« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2007, 09:03:24 pm »
Also why have some used, shall we say assumed names. .... I mean is ivor bigpole a real name

this is not a joke ya know 123 votes is appalling considering numbers of members here

Bazzy1999

  • Posts: 986
Re: petition
« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2007, 09:10:42 pm »
Done !!  ;D


Bazzy...

StevePB

  • Posts: 48
Re: petition
« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2007, 09:17:17 pm »
  Done
No sweat no get

Chris Cottrell

  • Posts: 3162
Re: petition
« Reply #66 on: October 27, 2007, 09:21:37 pm »
just a reminder of the link

petition to downing street.     http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Waterfed-poles

m.b.s.

Re: petition
« Reply #67 on: October 27, 2007, 09:40:47 pm »
just sent link to freinds and family has any one gatecrashed the other cleaning section parts of this forum with this may be worth a go i would but woudnt know how to put it get back if someone decides to do this m.b.s

Re: petition
« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2007, 09:46:39 pm »
I've now joined the elite band of the 100 best men in the country who have signed the petition.

Proud as I am to be in such company our so called industry leaders could be doing more to promote this petition. Apart from their  thinking of it in the first place they should be making every effort to get as many people to sign it as possible by all means.
They should also have in place a strategy for sustainability that will go some way to addressing the governments/defra's concerns on this, and as a first step arrange a liason meeting with DEFRA and others such as craig-fed. Any such meeting will need an agenda and it is this area that needs addressing. I am disgusted by the lack of ideas and believe they are out of their depth. If I had more time I would enjoy nothing more than to give them a good kicking. They had a chance at the consultation stage to affect this and failed miserably.
If you're gonna lead, lead, don't just talk about it.

m.b.s.

Re: petition
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2007, 10:19:29 pm »
just got the wife to signe it have any of you you dont have to be a w/c to do this

Steve Lowe

  • Posts: 177
Re: petition
« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2007, 10:50:00 pm »
I've now joined the elite band of the 100 best men in the country who have signed the petition.

Proud as I am to be in such company our so called industry leaders could be doing more to promote this petition. Apart from their  thinking of it in the first place they should be making every effort to get as many people to sign it as possible by all means.
They should also have in place a strategy for sustainability that will go some way to addressing the governments/defra's concerns on this, and as a first step arrange a liason meeting with DEFRA and others such as craig-fed. Any such meeting will need an agenda and it is this area that needs addressing. I am disgusted by the lack of ideas and believe they are out of their depth. If I had more time I would enjoy nothing more than to give them a good kicking. They had a chance at the consultation stage to affect this and failed miserably.
If you're gonna lead, lead, don't just talk about it.

Hi VG
Please dont take this the wrong way but you are incorrect to say that industry leaders are out of there depth with this. I have spoken to Craig,FWC, and many others including Defra and i can asure you they all know where they are going with this but do not really want to put it on a public forum for a very good reason. The petition is at first thought a good idea but it could well back fire !  When i done the drought order work i telephoned about 40 local firms to me asking them to at least send in an objection. Only a few could be bothered but its probably the other ones that want the support from trade associations but cant be bothered to join!! If associations got proper support they could do far far more!!

Steve
Steven J Lowe MBICSc

Lowes Cleaning Services Limited
www.lowescleaning.com

Re: petition
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2007, 11:10:30 pm »
Good. Mollified slightly. It's important that we show we are a responsible industry. My approach would be to ask for their help, or as much help as they can give us to make the industry sustainable. This might mean products/means to recycle harvest rain water, grants/taxbreaks for investment in same, education and training in best practice and certification.

I understand about a public forum and confidentiality and tactics. My tactics would be to offence with pr, get some/all MP's on side. This can be done by our willingness to cooperate fully and take on board ways to save or not to use mains water. The other point is that our working pays taxes and it is very harsh to make this the subject of a water board whim.

Re: petition
« Reply #72 on: October 28, 2007, 08:51:34 am »
read again Jeff :o
As I understand it Pj
Twelve thousand five hundred and nineteen forum members, 100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

I just can't for the life of me understand why so few have signed the petition? Ok we could cut the fiigure down some what, due to the fact, it affects us w/c and not cleaners on the other section, even if we cut the figure down by half, that would still leave 6,250 members, lets cut that in half again, and say the other half are Trad? That still leaves us with 3,125 ish. and we have 100 signatures.

If I was the prime minister I would  ban w/cleaning as a priority with such a poor response.

With a response like that he will probably ban it even when water isn't in short supply.

My own persnal feeling is he wont care anyway, this is a sothern problem
so when he sees the pitition he will laugh & bin it.

George P

  • Posts: 1304
Re: petition
« Reply #73 on: October 28, 2007, 02:58:30 pm »
now signed, lets hope many people sign it

Re: petition
« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2007, 07:20:48 pm »
What is the wording of the letter you've put out to MP's Steve?

Tim Morton

  • Posts: 201
Re: petition
« Reply #75 on: October 28, 2007, 07:28:33 pm »
signed up too
Measure with a micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with an axe!!
Craigavon, N.Ireland

Re: petition
« Reply #76 on: October 30, 2007, 03:49:20 pm »
only 153 signed up , come on guys

mickwc

  • Posts: 162
Re: petition
« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2007, 05:55:44 pm »
All signed up!!!    Fingers crossed!!

mick hay

  • Posts: 1072
Re: petition
« Reply #78 on: November 04, 2007, 07:37:42 pm »
Signed

spotless2000

  • Posts: 442
Re: petition
« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2007, 10:37:04 pm »
Signed. ;)

Steve