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From trad to wfp
« on: September 06, 2007, 11:54:35 pm »
any tips welcome, as i know full well i'm going to need them.
Do you do this the same time span ie 4 weekly and 8 is it the same price i'm hoping not.

jeff1

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Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 12:00:17 am »
any tips welcome, as i know full well i'm going to need them.
Do you do this the same time span ie 4 weekly and 8 is it the same price i'm hoping not.

Ian
Once you get the hang of it, and you get upto speed, you will need to take on at least a third more work.

Unless your price's are already low, there is no need for a price increase, because you will be doing them much faster than you were trad.

keep them on the same time scale you do now.

matt

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 12:03:37 am »
a clean or 2 before you change over, switch to GG3 and pure water in our bucket, its s.posed to help

the clean before you switch, wipe the frames with your cill cloth ;)

jeff1

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Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 12:10:38 am »
I wrote a guide with a load of tips in it, here is the link to it on this forum,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=41914.0

There is a much more uptodate copy kept on the Training Academy forum

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 12:18:01 am »
any tips welcome, as i know full well i'm going to need them.
Do you do this the same time span ie 4 weekly and 8 is it the same price i'm hoping not.

Ian
Once you get the hang of it, and you get upto speed, you will need to take on at least a third more work.

Unless your price's are already low, there is no need for a price increase, because you will be doing them much faster than you were trad.

keep them on the same time scale you do now.
woops i have been saying to customers there price is doubling and will be doing them less often (did say that it is not set in stone but all seemed happy to pay more and 99% of my prices are not in anyway low 1% makes very nice bacon and egg sandwich  ;D

mark dew

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Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2007, 12:39:15 am »
woops i have been saying to customers there price is doubling and will be doing them less often (did say that it is not set in stone but all seemed happy to pay more and 99% of my prices are not in anyway low 1% makes very nice bacon and egg sandwich  ;D

Wow! If they are happy with the price being doubled with you cleaning half as much i would stick with that. Double the money for half the work sounds fantastic.
You could always fill in the gaps with more work.
I was never quick trad but i used to work at £16 - £20 p/h. Most standard houses now take 1/2 the time wfp and large houses, vicarages, rectories etc are now done in 1/4 of the time.

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2007, 12:47:28 am »
woops i have been saying to customers there price is doubling and will be doing them less often (did say that it is not set in stone but all seemed happy to pay more and 99% of my prices are not in anyway low 1% makes very nice bacon and egg sandwich  ;D

Wow! If they are happy with the price being doubled with you cleaning half as much i would stick with that. Double the money for half the work sounds fantastic.
You could always fill in the gaps with more work.
I was never quick trad but i used to work at £16 - £20 p/h. Most standard houses now take 1/2 the time wfp and large houses, vicarages, rectories etc are now done in 1/4 of the time.

mark if you dont mind me asking what would you get now an hour? ( i will not tell anyone i promise  ;)

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2007, 01:12:54 am »
OK chaps, Im gonna show my ignorance here.
What is GG3 and why use it on the clean before switching to WFP?

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2007, 08:44:17 am »
OK chaps, Im gonna show my ignorance here.
What is GG3 and why use it on the clean before switching to WFP?
GG3 is a cleaning liquid, you can buy it at any good stockist, ave used it in the past and when cleaning windows and is meant to not streak, when you put it in your water it does not leave bubbles (which did my head in) loads of peopl ehave said the same thing about gg3 so it must work when swopping over.

mark dew

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Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 12:12:46 pm »
mark if you dont mind me asking what would you get now an hour? ( i will not tell anyone i promise  ;)

roughly double what i was trad.  ;D

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 12:24:29 pm »
Thanks for the GG3 info.

After thirty years you can get stuck in a rut. I've only recently discovered how good microfibre cloths are after joining this forum. The've made some of my leaded work a real pleasure to do, though I shall be going WFP very soon.

Mark

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2007, 09:40:15 pm »
Thanks for the GG3 info.

After thirty years you can stuck in a rut. I've only recently discovered how good microfibre cloths are after joining this forum. The've made some of my leaded work a real pleasure to do, though I shall be going WFP very soon.

Mark
30 years well done  ;D this may put a spanner in the works, do you have a website yet?
by the way gg3 stands for glass gleam 3 there is also a mark 4 on this item from feedback 3 is the better one

macmac

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2007, 10:55:42 pm »
OK chaps, Im gonna show my ignorance here.
What is GG3 and why use it on the clean before switching to WFP?

GG3 is for soft water & GG4 is for hard water.

tony

matt

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2007, 11:10:52 pm »
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=42582.msg339725#msg339725
by the way gg3 stands for glass gleam 3 there is also a mark 4 on this item from feedback 3 is the better one
[quote

GG3 for soft water -- thus why its used in pure water

GG4 for hard water

matt

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2007, 11:11:59 pm »
opppsss sorry macmac

i started to type my reply and left my PC for a bit, thus you have replied and i need not have bothered  :)

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2007, 12:01:35 am »
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=42582.msg339725#msg339725
by the way gg3 stands for glass gleam 3 there is also a mark 4 on this item from feedback 3 is the better one
[quote

GG3 for soft water -- thus why its used in pure water

GG4 for hard water
ok well lost now as will anyone reading this post changing from trad to wfp.

I myself think i live in a hard water area (do not know as it comes out of the tap and does not say i'm hard) But i live in cambidge and from what i can gather it is a hard water area.

I have been always told gg3 is the best, now i am well confused, what is better for the change over (i am so glad i did not order that a min ago before checking back on here)
gg3 gg4 (is there a gg5?)

many thanks guys

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2007, 12:08:20 am »
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this may put a spanner in the works, do you have a website yet?

No I don't. I've never really felt the need for one. Though that could change of course.
For many years I've had all the work I need and to date my round has been self sustaining (word of mouth, referals etc). I don't want to overload myself with work I can't handle.

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2007, 12:33:29 am »
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this may put a spanner in the works, do you have a website yet?

No I don't. I've never really felt the need for one. Though that could change of course.
For many years I've had all the work I need and to date my round has been self sustaining (word of mouth, referals etc). I don't want to overload myself with work I can't handle.
if it does change you now have my web site address and im easy to talk to only speak plain english..

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2007, 08:47:07 am »
Thanks. I may need it if I lose much work making the switch to WFP. Though I did pick up 5 new custies the other week purely by word of mouth. I told them all I was making the switch and all bar one were up for it. The remaining one needs to experience the result before we win her over as all she can see is the water being left. You can't seem to get some of them past the fact that the water doesn't stay there.

Re: From trad to wfp
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2007, 12:48:44 pm »
Thanks. I may need it if I lose much work making the switch to WFP. Though I did pick up 5 new custies the other week purely by word of mouth. I told them all I was making the switch and all bar one were up for it. The remaining one needs to experience the result before we win her over as all she can see is the water being left. You can't seem to get some of them past the fact that the water doesn't stay there.
makes me laugh that they worry about a little water we are in the UK have they forgotton the wet weather we have had. the sky drops more than we do  ;)