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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #100 on: April 24, 2007, 08:44:23 pm »
Jimmy,

Do you drive a Volkswagan and your mate down the road a Skoda?

Everyone knows they are the same car underneath. Some pay more and are happy and some pay less and are happy.

I can't understand people who get on their high horse about concepts like this. Morrisons are doing a 2 for one on pizzas at the moment, are you sitting down Jimmy, they build it in the price, yet we still feel we got a bargain. ::)

Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #101 on: April 24, 2007, 09:06:55 pm »
prodry, chris g i have neither picked on or knocked anyone, least of all matt, as i am sure most sensible people reading this thread will realise, (should it be read in its entirety and correct context), and understand, yourselves on the other hand are becoming more and more confrontational when confronted by reasonable, intelligent , constructive argument, which says little for your characters, if you are their to offer advice as you say chrisg make sure its good advice, before you begin to critisice me, yourself and prodry are blatently trying to reduce what was a very constuctive thread into something other than desirable, hence i find it impossible to take either of you seriousely, i find your comments two faced and your sarcasm ugly,AND CHILDISH, nothing you have to say is constructive, why must you resort to being so confrontational it is quite reasonable to ask for an explanation to the following from you, customer a, customer b, customer a happens to be the uncle or aunt of customer b,..........customer a=farmhouse, 80/20 wool carpet, 24x15, beige, moderatley stained, £100 your so called high end......customer b=council, terrace, semi,or anything else, 80/20wool carpet, 24x15, beige, moderatley stained,  £50 ,infact exactly the same as customer a except one lives 3 miles from the other and happens to be your so called low end?, i simply see a problem here that i disagree with, if you , chrisg and others find this situation perfectly acceptable, then thats fine, i know alot of people and members of the public who would be outraged at this situation, but theres no need to be an idiot about it.
Since now you have become nasty about a simple, constructive post, i will not have anything more to with it, or you for that matter good luck in your endeavors ethical or not.
2 men go to morrisons, one lives in a farmhouse, the other lives in a council house, they both pick up the exact same 'pizza' you refer to, why should the bloke in the farmhouse pay more......its the same pizza!

prodry

Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #102 on: April 24, 2007, 09:15:43 pm »
If I had a pound for very time you said that was the end of your posts, I too would live in a farmhouse.

Go on gives some more......

Neil Grainger

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #103 on: April 24, 2007, 09:50:48 pm »
Jimmy

So who are you? Would add a lot more credability to your posts if we new who you are.

Most people with vast experience and a good business dont mind showing their details.

Pricing should always be variable, One to get the Job and two some customers wont go with cheap. Having the same price plan for all is crazy and just no practical.

Some will pay £100 for a lounge and some wont the skill is knowing who's who and getting the Job.

Cheers

Neil

matt jones

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #104 on: April 24, 2007, 10:26:32 pm »
I can't see the point of not filling out your profile to a certian extent what do they have to hide? Maybe people should not be allowed on these forums without it, it's abit creepy when it feels like your being stalked.

I must say though i am not against people given straight no bull sxxt advice. Jimmy certainly does that and maybe then some lol. I must also agree with what he says about charging one person one thing then somone else something different makes sense to me it doesn't seem right at all and if alot of people in other industries worked like this im sure they would be shut down in no time.
Fair enough if the rooms are of different sizes then by all means but if one persons house was bigger then the other the rooms would also be bigger and the job would earn you more money anyway, but i must say i am against charging different prices between customers for the same job. Surely you shouldn't need to, set your prices and keep to them i am very happy what i go about charging my customers and they are very happy about the service and professionalism they recieve.

Jimmy as i said the other day in which i don't remember you answering my question, i don't understand your reasons for using these forums? Someone as sucessful as yourself doesn't need answers, you got all the answers, so why waste your time? im surprised you have any time to waste?
regards
matt
 

Damian

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #105 on: April 24, 2007, 11:25:51 pm »
Matt, this jimmy guy seems to defend you a lot, looking back on other posts he is always quick to give YOU advice? Personally i dont like someone being ambiguous either but he isnt really hurting anyone-just speaking his mind, i know i do and dont apologise for it either!! I like his style for being upfront and not caring what others say-me to a T!! lol. Would prefer someone who speaks a lot to answer some basic questions-like who he is, prices he charges, how he gets work but hey jus roll with it. Life is too short to have a coronary over a screen with a bit of text on it-in front of you fella-we all do our own thing and is it really that upsetting?
I have  had loads of $hite on ere but laugh at it as i couldnt care less as i know that what i do works!! employ a few people, have a few businesses and laugh at most things!! Life shouldnt be that serious where it winds ya up mate. Listen to what this fella says and take heed what you will. Its your head to take in what you feel is necessary!!


Damian 8)
Kids for the ex-missus. The fireblade is my baby!!

ianharper

Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #106 on: April 25, 2007, 07:42:56 am »
guys

get yourself some insurance like contract work or some kind off sideline. so you never put yourself in a position that you can pay your bills.

respect

Ian Harper

carpetguy

Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #107 on: April 25, 2007, 08:07:50 am »
Lighten up James..................if you're as confrontational with your staff, or clients, you must be a very unpopular and unhappy puppy !

A discussion, is an exchange of views, from which, hopefully, all parties will learn something.

Confrontation, is a challenge, which will only result in either THE LOUDEST or the MOST STUBBORN getting their way....................not winning...................but getting their way !

A bit like bullying

The reality of pricing, at least in my case, is that every job should be priced separately, for obvious reasons and it's highly probable, that someone in a large expensive house will be charged more, because.............

The likeliehood, is they will have more expensive carpets, which will require more time spent on them and will want better products, which cost more.

Whereas, in the less well off areas, people will often be " price concious " and simply want a quick " freshen up " clean and often emphasys the" tracking only" areas and " don't bother to move anything" in the hope of keaping the price as low as possible.

This is a generalisation and not the status quo, but I'm sure it applies to many operators.

There have been many threads on here and it's stated in most marketing materials, that targeting "high end " clients will result in the opportunity to charge MORE FOR YOUR SERVICES.

Obviously.............to give exactly the same service, but charge different prices would be unwise, but I'm not sure that's what's being done, certainly not in my case.




Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #108 on: April 25, 2007, 09:34:53 am »
Jimmy

I'm sure you skimmed my post and missed the point rather than not being able to grasp the concept of 2 for 1 offers. ;)

Luc

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #109 on: April 25, 2007, 02:29:26 pm »
I think some good points have been made by both prodry and jimmy. I advertise in both the yellow pages and Thompsons and i also use leaflets and reminder cards. At the moment i am booked 2 weeks up front with two vans. It takes a lot of work as i'm always sending out letters and getting recomendations from customers if poss. I charge for two different services and find that most people in council areas or those who cant afford my higher price will go for the lounge priced at £40 which is just a clean, and my higher end of the work, my customers pay £70. The difference between the price is that i will dry using a blower, use a deoderiser and rinse with a acid rinse.
I have found by doing this that i get a steady flow of work. I also get plenty of work from my high end, who may have money who then recomend me to family of friends who may not be as well off. Some people may read this and criticise me, but this works for me and i get plenty of work, and my customers are happy.

ianharper


matt jones

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #111 on: April 26, 2007, 06:08:48 pm »
Hi ian, whats those two web addresses for lol have i missed something?
regards
matt

ollie

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #112 on: April 26, 2007, 11:16:48 pm »
wow....why the arguements? evryone has their own way of running their own business. lol
ollie

joey p

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #113 on: May 08, 2007, 07:19:27 pm »
reading this thread from start to finish, i think you guys are nearly all crazy or cannot read, jimmy only seems to be trying to help matt, and i think his advice is sound, alot of you have mis understood what he has said about prices to high end or low end customers, from what i see written all he has said is that you cannot charge a higher or lower price for the SAME service just cos of where a bloke lives, i agree with that, if you are offering a better service to your high end custys then thats great, which is wot he says, stop giving the guy such a hard time, he seems to be the only bloke on here who knows what he is talking about, still wot do i know , i'm just a newbie.

cheers

steve01

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2007, 12:46:43 pm »
I feel this post has gone off the thread a bit, i think the original idea was, is there a down turn in trade, not just for cc's, i think, but from what i can see, the wider economy. Interest rates up again today, could this have an impact?

Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2007, 01:00:50 pm »
So which will save people more money, cleaning or buying new carpets?

How come some people are booked up while others have very few jobs?

matt jones

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paul wright

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #117 on: May 10, 2007, 01:36:41 pm »
because some people tell little porky pies mike lol ;)

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #118 on: May 10, 2007, 08:49:31 pm »
the interest rate has gone up again today based on consumer spending being too high, perhaps we are looking for a scapegoat!

Sometimes we get lazy and don't do the stuff we are supposed to do to get work.

Shaun

will01

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Re: Worst Week in 16 years
« Reply #119 on: May 10, 2007, 10:25:36 pm »
Thankyou Shaun:

Nail hit firmly on the head.