[Ian_Giles]

I'm supplying Rog with water for a £1.00 a day, which I hope and think is fair.

Rog is goingto have a tough day today, and he's going to think he's wasted his money, he's going to be fed up with the hose snagging on everything, fed up with taking longer than before, fed up with getting wet, fed up with worrying about the fact he just can't get it right because of spotting and runs when the windows have dried out....And whats this about it being less hard work than trad?? at the end of the day he's going to ache like hell...

Everyone thinks it is sooooo easy this water on a stick lark, and of course, to a degree it certainly is...but you have to get through the learning curve, and it is a steep one.

I think that the WFP newbie needs to double clean houses first off.
Go around the house thoroughly washing everything, then once you've finished, go back to the first window and start again, but this time clean only the glass, and don't press too hard on the glass either.

With the ten inch brush, the 2 needle jets are fine for rinsing, he has his water jetting a good 12 feet or more, but you don't want to rinse from that distance of course
Hold the brush close to the glass, the water will spead nicely and won't splash, and you should be able to control that spread, push it just up to the top edges of the glass.
with practice and experience you will learn that you don't always have to rinse off the glass at all...I certainly don't, or if I do, it is only a quick, cursery rinse...

Don't forget, all the time you are washing the glass, you are also continuously rinsing the whole time.

I can't say that I had any aches and pains when I started WFP, but for those that do, well, they will soon fade as you become accustomed to the work.

Ian

[Tosh]

Good luck, Roger (Squeaks).

I bet in a few months you'll love it. 

I look forward to your whining this evening!

[pylofm]

Get out there and enjoy the experiance as it is a start to a profitable future....I agree I also look forward to your stories Roger

Remember hoses are inanimate objects and do not have thought process's that make them want to snag and catch on other objects

Cheers
Dave.

[Paul Coleman]

I'm supplying Rog with water for a £1.00 a day, which I hope and think is fair.

Rog is goingto have a tough day today, and he's going to think he's wasted his money, he's going to be fed up with the hose snagging on everything, fed up with taking longer than before, fed up with getting wet, fed up with worrying about the fact he just can't get it right because of spotting and runs when the windows have dried out....And whats this about it being less hard work than trad?? at the end of the day he's going to ache like hell...

Everyone thinks it is sooooo easy this water on a stick lark, and of course, to a degree it certainly is...but you have to get through the learning curve, and it is a steep one.

I think that the WFP newbie needs to double clean houses first off.
Go around the house thoroughly washing everything, then once you've finished, go back to the first window and start again, but this time clean only the glass, and don't press too hard on the glass either.

With the ten inch brush, the 2 needle jets are fine for rinsing, he has his water jetting a good 12 feet or more, but you don't want to rinse from that distance of course
Hold the brush close to the glass, the water will spead nicely and won't splash, and you should be able to control that spread, push it just up to the top edges of the glass.
with practice and experience you will learn that you don't always have to rinse off the glass at all...I certainly don't, or if I do, it is only a quick, cursery rinse...

Don't forget, all the time you are washing the glass, you are also continuously rinsing the whole time.

I can't say that I had any aches and pains when I started WFP, but for those that do, well, they will soon fade as you become accustomed to the work.

Ian

£1 a day is a bargain Ian especially as Roger may need to return to base for a refill during the day on his first cleans.
If it wasn't for the support from this forum, I may have even reverted to ladders during the early weeks.  I had a lot of spotting issues at first while trying to remove old detergent film that I had been putting on the windows over the years.  I had cancellations from people who didn't like WFP.  I had mystery cancellations from people who were possibly/probably cancelling due to WFP.  I had to shed work where the only access was over a flat roof (still do two like this but do the back windows trad).  I had oxidizing problems on two of the jobs which had bad access so we parted company anyway.  That Winter there were more freeze-ups than what we've been used to in recent years and they came early so I had problems with that too.  Add to that needing a replacement gearbox on my van. Then deciding to pass on my van system and replacing it with one that was easier to self maintain and where the RO actually produced some water - all this within the first few months of WFP.  Oh yeah - and having a small fire in the back of my van as well - fortunately resolved before it got out of hand.  I even had a situation where I broke a small pipe next to the pump.  I had to get a passerby to hold their thumb over the pipe while I ran indoors for some plasticine (don't knock it, it worked well as a stopgap plug).  Also, after laying out all that money, I lost my largest domestic and largest commercial customewr within weeks.  This was nothing to do with WFP though.  I hadn't even used WFP on the domestic one when the guy decided to rip me off for the money, and the commercial job was bought out by another company.
I started to think that I had paid a lot of money for a complete disaster.  I got through it though.
Then things started coming together.  I was offered a property to use for a water tank about the same time that a second hand IBC/RO setup became available.  That meant I had some degree of independence in my water production and didn't need to tie the van up for long periods.  About that time I was starting my second cleans so the actual cleaning was a bit easier too - though it took a few times around to re-learn my round properly.

It really was a baptism of fire and was severely stressful - especially as finance was very tight too.

If I can come through all that, I'm sure Rog will cope.

[Sunshine Cleaning]

Same here Shiner,

First 2 months the hardest thing is re learning your round. I used it on everything only to find it didn't suit some work. Month 4 the van broke down and took the garage 3 weeks to find the problem. After that it took another 2 months untill I was happy with the work.

Then I parted company with my partner, he had the trad work I kept the WFP work.

Working alone was a challenge, but now 1 year on from getting set up, everything is falling into place.

I've just helped set up a friend and i'm sure he will have 2-3 months of pulling his hair out as well.

All the best Roger. Stick with it.

Bear