[karlosdaze]

Yes, Kitchen aluminium paper, don't let the alu touch the water.

[The_Fed_Man]

You have to prime it with the lever on the side to keep the flow going, mainly for when you rinse.  Yes, that's the one I saw, need to see it in person to decide if it's up to the job but i can't see why not.

[Majestic]

Fed Man
What height do you think that you could reach with it

[The_Fed_Man]

People mainly do residential with them but i would think them okay for 30 feet or so.  Just mind you don't tip up when you're full!

[Peter Fogwill]

I have used a backpack, the 20L hozelock one.  It has the hand pump on the side, and you can pump water successfully up to at least 40 feet, the only problem I found was the amount of water you got out the brush, even when working on lower windows.  Although it done the job, you were hanging around a bit too long waiting to pump enough water to rinse the window properly.

It can be a bit awkward pumping and using the pole at the same time, and it can be a bit of a nuisance pouring water into it all the time, it is heavy on your back, but it does the job.

Anyone interested in trying it, you just cut the lance off and join the tubing supplied, to the tubing from your water fed pole, fill with pure water and away you go.



Peter Fogwill

[james44]

peter i am looking for a system (pole system) just to do residential work is i possible would it pay. how many houses could be done on say 50 ltrs of water.

[Peter Fogwill]

Yes you can do residential much faster with pure water, I have had reports though that it is not any quicker on rows of terraced council houses and the likes, mainly because of obstructions like fences washing lines etc. Also the type of customer living in these houses are mostly in during the day and expect their window to be left dry, and expect the window cleaner to have a ladder.

I personally cleaned lots of houses with pure water and never had these problems. All the work I did was on larger private houses.  Most of my customers were out working during the day and never had a clue how I cleaned the window, and if they did they didn't care how they were cleaned as long as they were clean.

I did have the problems when I first started getting rid of the old soap from the frames etc. but my customers trusted me enough to believe that it would be better than a squeegee after a few clean.

You won't have any problems with commercial work, now a lot of companies expect the windows to be cleaned without ladders, and some of them request it due to health and safety issues.  

To answer your question on will it pay? I have many reports from customers that they are picking up better well paid commercial and residential work just by having the system.

Your other question "how many houses can you clean with 50L of water" it depends on what type of windows, how many windows, how often they are cleaned, etc.

Two large 3 bedroom houses without conservatory's can be done with about 25L of water, so about 4 houses with 50L, I personally carried 200L of water and it lasted me about 4 hours. If you need more than that you go back and fill up again.

Peter

[james44]

peter thanks for the reply, if i decide to just do pole work  is there any where that will give a demo  on the correct way to use the system, i do have a 200 ltr tank which i bought to do moble car washing  but will now use it for windows instead. ps i live in scotland.

[Peter Fogwill]

James, where in Scotland are you?

You are welcome to come along to my workshop any time and see the systems; I can also give you a demonstration, and show you exactly what is involved.

I am just outside Edinburgh

Peter

[james44]

peter i am living in ayrshire and would gladly like to come and see you about this system  i am wondering when would be the best time to start up doing this, the sort of rates around my way  are  3.50-4.00 for upper flat and 3.00.350 bottom but just walking around town and i can see lots of windows untouched  3 storey upwards  private as well as commercial.

[karlosdaze]

Thanks Peter, I've just received the pipe! Just so everyone knows, I'm very impressed with Peters after sales service.

[Peter Fogwill]

Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
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<peter i am living in ayrshire and would gladly like to <come and see you about this system  i am wondering <when would be the best time to start up doing this, <the sort of rates around my way  are  3.50-4.00 for <upper flat and 3.00.350 bottom but just walking <around town and i can see lots of windows untouched  <3 storey upwards  private as well as commercial.

James, you are only about 1 hours drive from me, you can come anytime, just let me know.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

[Peter Fogwill]

Thanks Peter, I've just received the pipe! Just so everyone knows, I'm very impressed with Peters after sales service.

Thanks Karl, have you had time to see if it makes any difference?

Peter Fogwill

[KC]

Are the systems worth investing in?

[Dave Anderson]

Which system do you think is best some of the posters he seem a little confused as to what they should get?

I prefer the DIY route as I like to fettle and experiment

Whats you preference?

[Cookie]

DIY for me also - although I did get a local garage to drill through the van chassis & fix in two lengths of angle iron to which the tank is attached via 5 ton ratchet straps.

Purchased most of my bits from Pure Freedom & Gardiners.

[jo5hm4n]

Which system do you think is best some of the posters he seem a little confused as to what they should get?

I prefer the DIY route as I like to fettle and experiment

Whats you preference?

How did you even find this thread? 

[Dave Anderson]

I like to go back to the very start of this forum and find topics we seem to cover regularly and see if we have changed what, how we do things.

Sometimes there is no reason to start new topics when we already have a wealth of information we can look at an improve upon now we have had a few years to work on them.