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Pure water systems - which is best?
« on: June 16, 2003, 04:25:51 am »
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GP

Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2003, 11:16:02 am »
What exactly are purewater cleaning systems ???

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2003, 03:55:29 pm »
Pure water systems (like the Reach & Wash system for example) were originally developed for commercial window cleaners to overcome restrictive Health & Safety rules relating to ladders but they also allow windows to be cleaned much faster than with a squeegee because the windows are left to dry naturally.
Normal tap water contains many minerals and when used to clean windows it is these impurities that are left on the glass when the windows dry, causing a less than satisfactory finish unless the windows are squeegeed off. However, once de-mineralised, pure water left on glass dries clear.
De-mineralised water possesses a strong desire to return to an impure state, therefore when used for cleaning, pure water actively absorbs all chemicals and minerals it comes across, making it an environmentally friendly cleaning solution.
When applied using a waterfed pole, the cleaning technique is simple, safe and efficient, suitable for reaching previously innaccessible areas, cleaning windows, frames paintwork, conservatories, vehicles and much more.

ajwindows

Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2003, 01:22:56 am »
I've looked at the reach/wash system and they sell a system for £99 which they say is for residential windows. what difference does it make, surely windows are windows

Mike_Boxall

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2003, 11:49:51 am »
Hello AJ
'Residential' actually refers to the type of use rather than the type of windows. Thats to say, it is designed for low volume water production that a user would need just to do their own home rather than a higher volume system a professional window cleaner would need if he is cleaning domestic or commercial windows all day long.
The larger systems can produce up to 1000 litres of water per day at very low cost rather than relying on a single filter system (as in the residential) which would prove expensive if used all day long.
Mike

gibbouk

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2003, 08:17:33 pm »
hello all.
as someone who has took a year deciding before buying a water fed system. take a look at peter fogwell's.  http://www.window-tools.com/
no frills system to suit your water quality in your area.
the reach and wash £99 system is just a deionising tank, this is no good if you live in a hard water area like me. with this you need a reverse osmosis water filter.

Polepro

Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2003, 03:10:47 pm »
I used the Reach & Wash system for 3 years and would never use ladders even if you paid me. Everywhere I look these days I see Reach & Wash systems being used, seems to me that makes it the most popular system!

Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2003, 10:52:44 pm »
i use tucker uk pure water...amazing i have 700litre double hose with three high poles cleans anything apart from cars

pure_genius

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2003, 10:30:52 pm »
I just looked at brockburn web site on there truckmount section and all there is a picture of a little boy no products not impressed !!!
not really a serious contender surelly
Tucker poles and Reach & Wash i feel are the only real contenders, not a little Fred in the shed  

karlosdaze

Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2003, 02:36:50 am »
I bought Broxburn, I'm impressed.
http://www.window-tools.com/
try this link.
Karl

The_Fed_Man

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2003, 11:20:38 pm »
It's horses for courses Gents,  Large systems for large work, small systems for small or infrequent work.  The small systems cost more per window in resin, the large ones use a system that makes the resin last longer and so be more cost effective in the long run.  
You would need at least one full day a week's work to pay for a large system.
Martin Warman
Executive Council Member N.F.M.W & G.C.
www.nfmwgc.com

gibbouk

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2003, 01:08:13 am »
my ro unit from broxburn is no different from the reach and wash one supplied sole resin units only work in soft water areas.

The_Fed_Man

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2003, 01:13:57 am »
How long can you work with Peter's unit before having to wait for more water?
Martin Warman
Executive Council Member N.F.M.W & G.C.
www.nfmwgc.com

Majestic

Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2003, 01:27:13 am »
I dont know about Peters unit , I bought mine from
www.andwat.co.uk also you could try
www.cleantech.co.uk very helpfull
www.brodexbms.co.uk all were at the National Fed trade show this year

Terry_Burrows

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2003, 08:59:56 pm »
;) as fed man says! :-/ you are best to talk to as many people as you can who own there water systems,there are conflicting views as to what system is best! :-/
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luap

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2003, 02:48:05 pm »
i am looking into using di water for rinsing cars and have found a guy that can produce di for sale as a bi product of what he uses it for. he has come up with a price of £70 per 1000ltrs i was wondering is you consider this expensive.

in the long run if i went into this i know that it would be cheaper to by a di or ro system..i was just after a bench mark on price.

thanks paul.

Polepro

Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2003, 03:06:09 pm »
You can easily use a 1,000ltrs of pure water from a Reach and Wash system every day. Including the lease cost of the van and system, a days work costs under £15!

STEVE71163

Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2003, 03:22:34 pm »
I am looking around for a new van and would like to buy one that is big enough for reach & wash but not to high should i need to get a ladder off of the roof. Any suggestions ???

Steve Lowe

The_Fed_Man

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2003, 04:01:19 pm »
PolePro,

is that £300 per month, brand new Movano and 1000L commercial?  Over 4 years?  How much did you have to put down?
Martin Warman
Executive Council Member N.F.M.W & G.C.
www.nfmwgc.com

The_Fed_Man

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Re: Pure water systems - which is best?
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2003, 04:03:56 pm »
Steve, unless you've got all day 2 men jobs, I suggest Mercedes Vito with 650L commercial.  This will handle those also but you will have to draw water on site by lunchtime/early afternoon.
Martin Warman
Executive Council Member N.F.M.W & G.C.
www.nfmwgc.com