Rinsing, brush on the glass or off?

« **on:** September 07, 2006, 04:20:52 pm »

I've heard alot of people hear say they lift the brush off the glass to rinse. Why?

Theres no need for it, on ground floor window I may sometimes do only if its a good flow on the glass, I cant be bothered to be lifiting poles off glass all day if theres no need, its hard work even at 18ft let alone 30, 40 or 50 feet up.

I find that with brush on it helps alot of windows flow down better, you know what I mean, you sort of agitate the water down with the brush on the glass.

« **Reply #1 on:** September 07, 2006, 04:37:25 pm »

I rinse off the glass all the time.

When using the 40foot pole i hardly ever move it side to side to rinse.

All i do is twist the pole to aim the water jets from left to right.

Craig

« **Reply #2 on:** September 07, 2006, 04:39:24 pm »

What brush do you use craig?

Regards
Alex

« **Reply #3 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:12:50 pm »

I would fill In your poll but the option I would tick is'nt there!

I rinse on and off the glass depending on circumstances.

Matthew

« **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:21:20 pm »

I cant belive how many people are voting brush off, all i can say is you must be wasting alot of energy.

It must be a confidence thing because I know for a fact that it does not matter in the slightest either way, but brush on is alot quicker alot less of a work out an less hassle of chaising silly little streams of beads down.

« **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:25:29 pm »

Quote from: ProPole on September 07, 2006, 04:39:24 pm

What brush do you use craig?

Regards
Alex

Alex

I'm using Vikan brushes at the moment.
Was thinkng of changing them but if they are doing the job i don't see the point.

Craig

« **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:29:13 pm »

I've never tried vikans, I was thinking of getting the square one.

I use a double trim brush which helps water flow in the middle of it were the bristles are smaller.

Also mate I know that little trick of turning the brush on big poles, thats the kiddy

« **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:30:36 pm »

I rinse with brush on glass, i find it easer to control where the water is going.

Jeff

« **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2006, 05:36:14 pm »

You know ladders, the brush helps the flow down the window.

Matthew clearvision,

I cant go back and edit the poll for some reason, Im absoutly cream crackerd from todays graft thats why the spelling is all over the show.

"Brush of on first floor and below, then brush on above"

SHOULD BE

Brush off on first floor and below, then brush on glass with higher windows.

or something along those lines.

Regards
Alex

« **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2006, 06:12:14 pm »

If you leave the brush on the glass you probably leave a lot of spots, as any dirt on the bristles will contaminate the pure water.

« **Reply #10 on:** September 07, 2006, 06:29:44 pm »

Providing your brush is clean, brush on the window is fine, the simple reason being pure water strives to return inpure state hence taking out impurities quickly and holding them in the water which then rinse straight out, impurities are taking out of the brush only leaving foreign bodies which hold in the brush, or come out and rinse away, depens what type of brush you have I surrpose.

Easyclean the guy who cleans down the road from you probably dont know what hes doing then, cleaning with brush on the glass is the actuall way to do it, R.S.I is all im saying.

Maybe some manufactures could shed some light on this, there selling us these tools which could cause us serious damage if not used correctly surely they will know how we are surrposed to use them, I know what the B.W.C.A say and its not brush off!!!

« **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2006, 06:39:21 pm »

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU RINSE BRUSH ON OR OFF.

its easier to clean with brush on, its all in the head just like when it beads down the glass, like i said im totally confident with my working practise I very very rarley get complaints also im confient that I will not be getting R.S.I also I will not be wasting energy and will probably be able to clean many more houses over a day than than the shiner down the road who takes his brush off. SWEET

« **Reply #12 on:** September 07, 2006, 07:20:43 pm »

on upstairs windows i leave the brush on the glass,not had one complaint in over 2 years

« **Reply #13 on:** September 07, 2006, 07:36:38 pm »

Propole, please be careful about using insulting phrases about others on the forum, it isn' t allowed.

I completely agree with you however on rinsing on the glass.

If you do it right it doesn't make any difference at all.

I haven't used the vikan brushes, but some will argue that the flocked bristles will retain contaminants.
I use the Salmon brush with 2 fan jets, these are supplied by Peter Fogwill with his system, and work great in my own personal opinion.
Peter also removes a couple of lines of bristles and by doing so this allows a clear line for the width of the brush for the fan jets to operate.
The brush is also single filament, and this DOES mean that any contaminants are easily rinsed away.

I hardly ever rinse off the glass, there just isn't any need to do so, if your technique is right then it isn't a problem.
But each to his own, we are still doing the same job, its what we get used to, if you develop the rinse of hte glass technique and it works for you then great!
Ditto the rinse on the glass brigade

But rinsing ON the glass is most definitely easier!!

Ian

« **Reply #14 on:** September 07, 2006, 07:47:02 pm »

Propole is correct, as i said i rinse on the glass, and once i have got the window sterile ( i.e after first couple of cleans )
i have not encountered any probs.

I know this because anything i have cleaned by wfp, i have checked them when i have been back to collect all summer.

I dont use wfp on much domestic work, but what i do i am confident that it,s o.k.

Jeff

« **Reply #15 on:** September 07, 2006, 08:23:52 pm »

I know of many window cleaners who initially had problems with spotting, but solved it by rinsing with the brush off the glass. This is the advice I was given from the people at OmniPole when I first purchased my system, and I think that they should know what their talking about!!

« **Reply #16 on:** September 07, 2006, 08:27:37 pm »

Anyone here rinse on with Vikan brushes.....?

« **Reply #17 on:** September 07, 2006, 08:28:37 pm »

propole, rinsing the brush of the glass i think its just habit realy, it just makes me feel very confident after sheeting the glass, knowing that everything has been rinsed of, and just for the record i use a vikan brush, as did most of us years ago, i have yet to try the other brushes and rince on the glass, it may be better and save some water, but its hard to break old habits,

« **Reply #18 on:** September 07, 2006, 08:41:24 pm »

OFF the glass when doing domestic's whats the issue with lifting the brush a few inches away from the glass on 1st floor windows ?? ?? ?? not much effort is it ?? ?? ? and for what extra effort you put in, you know NO DIRT will be left behind

comercail 2nd and above, leave the brush on

« **Reply #19 on:** September 07, 2006, 08:51:31 pm »

I rinse on the glass, but if I see my rinse leaving a 'pattern', (I'm sure you know what I mean), I'll give a second rinse with my brush off the glass!

I think rinsing with your brush on the glass helps to give a better rinse;generally; but if it leaves a pattern; it's another rinse for me.

Poll

When your rinsing, how do you do it?