[zesty]

The transit custom lashing points hold 500kg each spruce. A flat tank won’t go anywhere, pushed up against the bulk head and lashes down tight, it’ll be as safe as a framed upright tank.

At the end of the day, no matter how you secure the tank, you’re going to be in trouble in a high speed crash no matter what…

[CleanClear]

Away from home at the mo but I'll measure up when I'm back and give the exact part of the floor you can't bolt through.

Vin

Won’t different vans have different battery locations though? If I were going electric it would probably be the eCustom Sport I would opt for.

Same, that’s what im going for.

Battery takes up whole floor except the 1st quarter and last quarter of the van. So right where the tank goes the battery is underneath!

I’m going to use ratchet straps to strap a flat tank down if/when I get the e custom sport.

Aye a was thinking ratchet strapping might be the only option. I’ve got an upright 500 litre tank at the moment so wouldn’t feel comfortable ratchet strapping that, but the larger footprint of a flatter tank could be a possibility?

Have you test driven the e custom sport?

I’ve only test driven the limited, was a bit slow. But great to drive.

The sport does 0-60 in around 8.5 seconds, so not too shabby.

Whats the stopping distances like mate ?

[zesty]

Stopping distance is very good because of the regen braking. Better than diesel.

[CleanClear]

Stopping distance is very good because of the regen braking. Better than diesel.

Ok mate, beyond very good you don't actually know ?

I know  a little bit about regen though . Regen braking does not make stopping distances better. It doesn't add extra stopping power beyond what's already available. It can't match the braking force of friction brakes, especially in emergency or high-speed stops.

'very good'    Can't let you be getting away with that !!

[zesty]

Stopping distance is very good because of the regen braking. Better than diesel.

Ok mate, beyond very good you don't actually know ?

I know  a little bit about regen though . Regen braking does not make stopping distances better. It doesn't add extra stopping power beyond what's already available. It can't match the braking force of friction brakes, especially in emergency or high-speed stops.

'very good'    Can't let you be getting away with that !!

You can Google the stopping distance, I don’t really care to be honest 

[Scottish Cleaning Service]

What would happen if you lived high up and your battery was 100% charged and you set off for work and its all down hill? Is this the reason why they tell you to only charge the battery to 80%?

[zesty]

What would happen if you lived high up and your battery was 100% charged and you set off for work and its all down hill? Is this the reason why they tell you to only charge the battery to 80%?

Nothing would happen, except you’d use more energy going back home!

You only charge to 80% to preserve the battery health for as long as possible. Nothing wrong with charging to 100% but no need to that regularly, unless you need to for a longer trip.

[Splash and dash]

Stopping distance is very good because of the regen braking. Better than diesel.

Regen braking is nothing to do with improving braking it just means it charges the battery whilst you are breaking

[zesty]

Stopping distance is very good because of the regen braking. Better than diesel.

Regen braking is nothing to do with improving braking it just means it charges the battery whilst you are breaking

No it really is. Trust me, I’ve test driven one.

When in one pedal mode, it’s extremely powerful at decelerating. Combined with using the brakes, it will stop much quicker than the equivalent diesel.

Ultimately you’re governed by the tyres and mechanical grip, but it stops very quickly. The regen is ‘engine braking’ but on steroids.

As soon as you’re off the throttle, the van is slowing down aggressively. No time wasted (I know it’s only half a second) between moving from accelerator to brake.

At the end of the day, who cares anyway? I literally couldn’t care less how soon the van stops. As long as it stops in a reasonable distance which literally every modern vehicle on planet earth does.

[Perfect Windows]

I've done the measurement. The battery is 105cm wide (or so - I'm not going under again to measure to the mm).

If the bolt holes on your cage are further apart than that, you can bolt through. Ours aren't, so we popped to Cheltenham to Cleevely, EV specialists, who dropped out the battery and allowed us to use their lift while we fitted the tank. Overall, the job was five and a half hours. At £100 an hour it cost £550.

Now we know what we're doing, I reckon it would be around two and a half to three hours: 45 mins for them to disconnect and drop the battery, 45 to refit and the remainder would be our fitting time. The biggest time vacuum the first go around was the endless measuring to be sure that the tank would fit and that the bolts and spreader plates wouldn't interfere with the cooling fluid pipes on top of the battery. Here's a pic of a battery to show what I mean:



Handful of points:

I don't care how anyone else fits their tank. All I care about is how we fit ours. There are 382,766 other threads on that subject, all exactly the same.

Braking - the only comment on that is that it stops quickly enough for me. Everything I've read on EVs says to do a proper emergency stop once a month or the brakes can seize from lack of use. When I've done that, it stopped plenty fast enough.

The only experience I have is of Stellantis EVs (they all come from the same factory so they are all the same) and a Gardiner tank (the forerunner to the Grippa offering). We chose a Stellantis EV because it was insanely, bizarrely, stupidly cheap, but they are now even cheaper - there was a 36k mile, grade A battery 2021 Citroen e-Dispatch up the other day for a buy it now of £8,500 + VAT. Potty. If Transits were even close to that we might be looking at them. A van is a tool for us; the cheaper the better.

Vin

[CleanClear]

I've done the measurement. The battery is 105cm wide (or so - I'm not going under again to measure to the mm).

If the bolt holes on your cage are further apart than that, you can bolt through. Ours aren't, so we popped to Cheltenham to Cleevely, EV specialists, who dropped out the battery and allowed us to use their lift while we fitted the tank. Overall, the job was five and a half hours. At £100 an hour it cost £550.

Now we know what we're doing, I reckon it would be around two and a half to three hours: 45 mins for them to disconnect and drop the battery, 45 to refit and the remainder would be our fitting time. The biggest time vacuum the first go around was the endless measuring to be sure that the tank would fit and that the bolts and spreader plates wouldn't interfere with the cooling fluid pipes on top of the battery. Here's a pic of a battery to show what I mean:



Handful of points:

I don't care how anyone else fits their tank. All I care about is how we fit ours. There are 382,766 other threads on that subject, all exactly the same.

So its cost you a day off work, at whatever your daily expected rate is . Then £550 to have a system fitted ? Thats cool, all i asked for and probably all anyone else expected was just like asked... the cost. We now know it was £550 .

 Further ... i've highlighted it in red.... you now know what you're doing ?  This makes no sense to me as you didn't fit the tank.

Further again :

Scared the boy the other day when I pulled into a gap in a line of 30mph traffic with a touch of vigour the other day. Great fun to drive.

I'll add nothing to that you big macho man you............... 

Ultimatley the takeaway i have from this is that its quite an operation to remove a van battery to enable drilling into a floor to secure a water tank. Probably not a job for a home enthusiast.

Vin

[Perfect Windows]

This makes no sense to me as you didn't fit the tank.

The clue is in the phrase "...and allowed us to use their lift while we fitted the tank."

Vin

[AuRavelling79]

This makes no sense to me as you didn't fit the tank.

The clue is in the phrase "...and allowed us to use their lift while we fitted the tank."

Vin

Ah. Vin, you haven't appreciated that sometimes CleanClear's late night/early hours postings aren't always his most lucid.

[tlwcs]

This makes no sense to me as you didn't fit the tank.

The clue is in the phrase "...and allowed us to use their lift while we fitted the tank."

Vin

Ah. Vin, you haven't appreciated that sometimes CleanClear's late night/early hours postings aren't always his most lucid.

Trolling is ok when drunk? Asking for a friend 😁