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Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #120 on: July 30, 2025, 02:49:04 pm »
The free version of the app does preconditioning and range. You pay for other pointless nonsense that I can live without.

I'd be amazed if the van battery differs from mine but I genuinely hope for your sake that it does.

Vin

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #121 on: July 30, 2025, 02:52:32 pm »
That’s interesting re the ap.

Spruce

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #122 on: July 30, 2025, 04:53:49 pm »
The free version of the app does preconditioning and range. You pay for other pointless nonsense that I can live without.

I'd be amazed if the van battery differs from mine but I genuinely hope for your sake that it does.

Vin

Hi Vin,
Someone on the other forum has also purchased an EV. He was asking those on the forum how they would power pumps and an electric reel. What he wants is to be able to charge his wfp battery while his van battery is being charged overnight. I just wondered what you were doing.

Thanks. Spruce.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #123 on: July 30, 2025, 05:25:17 pm »
Hi Vin,
Someone on the other forum has also purchased an EV. He was asking those on the forum how they would power pumps and an electric reel. What he wants is to be able to charge his wfp battery while his van battery is being charged overnight. I just wondered what you were doing.

Thanks. Spruce.

I went for a Sterling LFP Li-ion battery (100Ah, £279) that I bench charge each weekend.  I realised that a large part of the hassle of installation is the wiring so I decided to swerve it completely. Battery via large fuse to small fused distribution board to controllers and reel. Took an hour at most. No tapping into the van electrics, no finding ways through bulkheads, no feeding cables through the cab, no split relays, no Victrons, no apps to link and tune (and no trying to step down from 450v to 12v!). Just a battery and some wires.

Simple to diagnose (eight wires in total, literally no electronics involved) and (before the idiots cut in) LFP is pretty much immune to thermal runaway, so it's no fire risk.

With two of us in the van and one electric reel, we could probably get through eight days' work (two weeks for us) on a charge.

We'll be doing this with all the vans in future.

Vin

Always shining

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #124 on: July 30, 2025, 05:43:39 pm »
Why do you need the large fuse to small fused distribution board? Excuse my ignorance.
Could you post a picture of said set up please?

Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #125 on: July 30, 2025, 06:40:34 pm »
Why do you need the large fuse to small fused distribution board? Excuse my ignorance.
Could you post a picture of said set up please?

If you're wiring 12v anything at all, ever, you should have a fuse on the live (red) wire as close as possible to the battery. That way, if it shorts, it won't cause a fire because the fuse will blow.

A pair of 12mm² wires (read as "massive cables") run to the back of the tank (in conduit)  to a small 12v distribution board with blade fuses, where it splits into controller x 2 and reel x 1 pair.

I've not used the van body as a negative earth so it's all isolated from the van. Don't want to suffer voltage drops, hence the stupidly thick cable.

I'll try to photograph.

Vin

Spruce

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #126 on: July 30, 2025, 07:06:10 pm »
Hi Vin,
Someone on the other forum has also purchased an EV. He was asking those on the forum how they would power pumps and an electric reel. What he wants is to be able to charge his wfp battery while his van battery is being charged overnight. I just wondered what you were doing.

Thanks. Spruce.

I went for a Sterling LFP Li-ion battery (100Ah, £279) that I bench charge each weekend.  I realised that a large part of the hassle of installation is the wiring so I decided to swerve it completely. Battery via large fuse to small fused distribution board to controllers and reel. Took an hour at most. No tapping into the van electrics, no finding ways through bulkheads, no feeding cables through the cab, no split relays, no Victrons, no apps to link and tune (and no trying to step down from 450v to 12v!). Just a battery and some wires.

Simple to diagnose (eight wires in total, literally no electronics involved) and (before the idiots cut in) LFP is pretty much immune to thermal runaway, so it's no fire risk.

With two of us in the van and one electric reel, we could probably get through eight days' work (two weeks for us) on a charge.

We'll be doing this with all the vans in future.

Vin

Thank you
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #127 on: July 30, 2025, 07:09:16 pm »
Here you go.

At the bulkhead:

site to upload photos

At the back:



Hope that clarifies.

Vin


Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #128 on: July 30, 2025, 07:18:35 pm »
There is, of course, an alternative. Spoke at length to Soupy after he posted this and he said he never had a problem with his solution.



Vin

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #129 on: July 30, 2025, 07:48:34 pm »
Perfect thanks mate