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Simon Trapani

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #100 on: November 29, 2019, 11:02:45 am »
I think in Lee Pryor’s case he’s said on here before that he needs to know x amount is coming in by a certain date for wages etc. It’s not so much the cross referencing. I’m sure he’ll correct me if I’ve got that wrong.

NWH

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #101 on: November 29, 2019, 11:50:34 am »
Yeah Xmas bonus being applied Jesus if you’d done that to me as a customer Nathan you’re name would be S$$$T round where you work m8,id  go out of my way to contact the local paper just to let all the locals know.

NWH

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #102 on: November 29, 2019, 11:54:16 am »
You sound like that gardener using gocardless to Rip people off,I reckon you keep a mental note of who’s dumb and who isn’t so much when you are about to debit there account at Xmas time don’t you.

NWH

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #103 on: November 29, 2019, 11:56:10 am »
He is being serious too it was mentioned by him on here a couple of years ago about him doing that it raised an eyebrow then.

nathankaye

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #104 on: November 29, 2019, 11:57:33 am »
Nope, i just make a mental note of who's gullible on here and easy to take the bait lol. (Gullible back then and still fall for it now  ;D)
Of course I dont put a surcharge on for december. I have a heart n morals.   I at least wait until Jan!
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Sorry couldn't resist! But of course I or others dont actually do that!
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Jonny 87

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #105 on: November 29, 2019, 12:48:38 pm »
Nope, i just make a mental note of who's gullible on here and easy to take the bait lol. (Gullible back then and still fall for it now  ;D)
Of course I dont put a surcharge on for december. I have a heart n morals.   I at least wait until Jan!
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Sorry couldn't resist! But of course I or others dont actually do that!

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I’m surprised they took the bait on that one.
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NWH

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2019, 01:05:13 pm »
You don’t get away with it that easily Nathan it’s on here somewhere I’m sure someone will find it for us too,this was debated about you doing this a couple of years ago.

dazmond

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2019, 01:18:34 pm »
i just see my debt list as money in the bank that i dont spend at the moment,itll come in eventually....ive already been paid nearly £300 in BACS payments already this morning so its down to £615 now......all my bills are paid/up to date,food shopping done for the week,money in the bank...i dont NEED it straight away.....

if i was employing with thousands of jobs then of course gocardless would be essential for the smooth running of my business,to pay for wages,unexpected expenses and so on......
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #108 on: November 29, 2019, 01:20:13 pm »
You don’t get away with it that easily Nathan it’s on here somewhere I’m sure someone will find it for us too,this was debated about you doing this a couple of years ago.

it was frankybadboy winding some of you up a few years ago..... ;D...of course none of them added a xmas charge/bonus..... ::)roll ;D
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #109 on: November 29, 2019, 01:31:09 pm »
You don’t get away with it that easily Nathan it’s on here somewhere I’m sure someone will find it for us too,this was debated about you doing this a couple of years ago.

it was frankybadboy winding some of you up a few years ago..... ;D...of course none of them added a xmas charge/bonus..... ::)roll ;D

This!!  😂😂😂
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Soupy

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #110 on: November 29, 2019, 02:20:09 pm »
If I was going to do it; I'd get, like, 6000 customers on it, then whack the lot for the max amount (£5000)..

£30mil.

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NWH

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #111 on: November 29, 2019, 03:19:17 pm »
Something like gocardless is for a window cleaning business that has a huge amount of work,for 75-100% it’s no where near needed

Shrek

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #112 on: November 29, 2019, 03:54:15 pm »
Something like gocardless is for a window cleaning business that has a huge amount of work,for 75-100% it’s no where near needed

Exactly - if bank transfer doesn’t work then standing order. If they don’t want to pay then dump !

Slacky

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #113 on: November 29, 2019, 04:00:36 pm »
You don’t get away with it that easily Nathan it’s on here somewhere I’m sure someone will find it for us too,this was debated about you doing this a couple of years ago.

Did you know they've removed the word 'gullible' from the dictionary.

nathankaye

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #114 on: November 29, 2019, 07:05:19 pm »
With all these price changes, im thinking of changing my pricing structure;
£2 monthly subscription to NKservices
£1 surcharge per month which contributes to the
        end of yr bonus.
£1 to cover the increase of 20p from GoCardless
£15 min charge for the actual cleaning of windows.

New min charge £19
Lets hope the elections go well and I can implement the new changes as well
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #115 on: November 29, 2019, 07:09:46 pm »
And the forum will charge 50p per post. 25p per reply to thread.  2p credit per like you get.   And £5.00 per insult
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Crystal-clear

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #116 on: November 30, 2019, 03:09:20 am »
Couple of things to keep in mind so £100 per 300 customers fair enough but got to think about how much time saved with that £100. And the next thing is as the cost is creeping up and it's the first time in a long time to be fair.
You could also synchronise the price Rises exactly at the same time. So for example a £10 job match it £10.30 which exactly covers the charge. I'm sure customers would be totally fine with a 30p increase after x amount of time especially if you haven't  increased prices in a while. That said you would have to do the same for BACS transfer customers to make it fair unless your fully GC.
Technically you would just need to increase price by 20p on a £10 job to be exactly where you were..

I think that's a sensible way to get around the expense if you don't wish to absorb it.
Doubtful you will get many complaints on such a small increase.
And considering the time gocardless can save you and given the fact technically you can micro increase the prices to absorb the cost I still think it's a very handy tool

I actually think this is the first time gocardless has increased prices in many years.
Surely it was coming

Simon Trapani

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #117 on: November 30, 2019, 09:51:23 am »
Some good points Crystal. GoCardless was definitely  becoming a time saver for me. I was, and currently still do, copy & paste the bacs reference on my banking page into aworka. Wheras aworka with GoCardless  incorporated does it all for me. It was also a way round the repeated forgetful payers. Some customers are just very busy. I'll wait & see what others do & maybe incorporate into net years price rises.

Spruce

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #118 on: November 30, 2019, 06:53:17 pm »
It was inevitable.

That's put me off pushing it to be honest.

It's not a massive amount but is worrying you are at the mercy of go card less when they increase again and again.

I think I'll only offer go cardless to slow payers going forward.

Or just factor it in to all new quotes.

This is the way long term sales work. Introduce a product at a very competitive too good to be true rate and when you have enough people locked in,  raise the prices.

We knew exactly why the banks were trying to remove cheques from circulation as a first step toward a cashless society. If they can remove the cash then they could reduce their staff and branches dramatically as all we need is a plastic card. No more atms to fill with cash and maintain so most will go as well. Once there are no cash and no cheques then the banks are free to put whatever charges they want to to each transaction, both in and out of our account. If you can't bank online then tough.
All the bank branches would be is mortgage enquiries and sales outlets as well as any other services they choose to introduce.
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Crystal-clear

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Re: GoCardless are increasing fees from Feb
« Reply #119 on: November 30, 2019, 09:14:02 pm »
Some good points Crystal. GoCardless was definitely  becoming a time saver for me. I was, and currently still do, copy & paste the bacs reference on my banking page into aworka. Wheras aworka with GoCardless  incorporated does it all for me. It was also a way round the repeated forgetful payers. Some customers are just very busy. I'll wait & see what others do & maybe incorporate into net years price rises.

It's not that much when you think about it it's a very small increase they did in years that we've been using them. If anything them increasing the price keeps us honest in us increasing our prices (something we tend to slack on).

I'm pretty sure that's the first increase they've had in years so all you probably need to do is everytime they increase the price you increase your price to match their costs. But you might want to probably you increase your price anyway at the same time.

So for example if an extra 20p charge.
At the same time you email sections of your customer list (just like they are because not everyone has had the email yet) and you could increase an extra 40p making the job maybe 10.50 which would cover their increase and cover inflation then again another few years they increase again and likewise you're now £11.00. A 50p increase every 3 years is perhaps sensible and by them increasing their prices would probably give you the encouragement to increase also.
I think if you look at it from that perspective it all makes sense. I'm sure if you emailed your £10 jobs that from February it's going to be £10.50 you are going to get probably no one complaining about that increase especially if they had no increases for 3 or 4 years.

That way not only have you covered their cost but you've also covered for and accounted for inflation appropriately.  sorted !