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NWH

  • Posts: 16952
Re: Time waster
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2019, 07:18:39 pm »
You can earn well on certain stuff but the big car showrooms and the like used to be really good earners,I know a couple they do some of these, now we are talking 20-25 10/10ft big panes of glass I’m and out 60-70 quid in and out lol.
There are to many people out there cutting you’re throat on price these days,I’m saying the easy money stuff that you could start at 4-5  in the morning are being done for ridiculously low prices now.
If you’re getting these jobs and getting well paid fair play to you but there’s a hell of a lot of WCs about that are willing to do you’re garage or office block for very little money in comparison to a few years ago,the WFP has crashed prices on a lot of commercial jobs.

windowswashed

  • Posts: 2574
Re: Time waster
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2019, 07:48:11 pm »
Prices on shops use to be good doing trad, WFP or trad shop prices are rubbish now, stopped quoting years ago on shops.

KS Cleaning

  • Posts: 3948
Re: Time waster
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2019, 08:11:36 pm »
I’m not interested in going and pricing a job for 20 quid less than I would normally clean it for I’ve been there years ago,if anything I go well above the price I know most will quote.
The thing is with this job once you have the job more often than not you’ll have it for a long time,I don’t want to be thinking I’ve gone in well under here I could be earning more up the road. £70 for something like the above garden center is not worth the hassle I’ve said it before commercial is not what it was,you used to be home by 12   4-500 hundred pound in the bank.
Those days we’ll and truly over
The tax man must love you,  I take it you’re in the 41% tax bracket with the money you earn?

G Griffin

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2019, 08:23:32 pm »
I’m not interested in going and pricing a job for 20 quid less than I would normally clean it for I’ve been there years ago,if anything I go well above the price I know most will quote.
The thing is with this job once you have the job more often than not you’ll have it for a long time,I don’t want to be thinking I’ve gone in well under here I could be earning more up the road. £70 for something like the above garden center is not worth the hassle I’ve said it before commercial is not what it was,you used to be home by 12   4-500 hundred pound in the bank.
Those days we’ll and truly over
The tax man must love you,  I take it you’re in the 41% tax bracket with the money you earn?
He means 12 midnight.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

james peters

  • Posts: 950
Re: Time waster
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2019, 09:54:04 pm »
I have noticed nearly all the new start ups are all on fb.  pushing their business through fb.
whilst I know it can get new business , its not for me ...
I am happy to watch them scrabble to get the business of the typical fb majority ... after a one off bargain ....
much prefer lee pryors approach and 8 weeklys approach .
or I should say my way ...
I am not interested in the " how much "  spending time of an evening ping ponging messages back and forth.
poncing over a pound etc.
I now can quote over the phone , or by google maps ... if I get it wrong , I will adjust it. if they don't agree , then they are not for me .

Smudger

  • Posts: 13435
Re: Time waster
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2019, 08:38:33 am »
I have noticed nearly all the new start ups are all on fb.  pushing their business through fb.
whilst I know it can get new business , its not for me ...
I am happy to watch them scrabble to get the business of the typical fb majority ... after a one off bargain ....
much prefer lee pryors approach and 8 weeklys approach .
or I should say my way ...
I am not interested in the " how much "  spending time of an evening ping ponging messages back and forth.
poncing over a pound etc.
I now can quote over the phone , or by google maps ... if I get it wrong , I will adjust it. if they don't agree , then they are not for me .

You mean you give an estimated price over the phone

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

dazmond

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2019, 08:57:42 am »
im surprised some of you have any work whatsoever with the terrible attitude you ve got towards potential customers that you ve never given a chance..... ::)roll
price higher/work harder!

Johnny B

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2019, 11:10:16 pm »
im surprised some of you have any work whatsoever with the terrible attitude you ve got towards potential customers that you ve never given a chance..... ::)roll

I agree with you on this Daz. I believe everyone deserves a chance. It's up to them to prove they're worthy of our business. I get a lot of work through Facebook and most of the customers I get through it are sound.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

nathankaye

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2019, 11:51:50 pm »
Ive sparked some debates on pricing on a facebook page, for yorkshire window cleaners.
Im trying to expand in a particular nice area and they have a "hub" in facebook for said area which after jumping through hoops (a set of questions 😂) i have been allowed to join.  My thinking was that it wouldnt be the typical facebook enquiries, but sadly i was wrong, not fully wrong but wrong all the same.
So ive picked up 4 jobs to quote plus a conny roof job.
The roof cleaning job was more of a valet on the conservatory, wanting top windows opened and cleaned in the runs etc.   I quoted accordingly £250 and we agreed this monday. Ten mins ago i get a message blaming mrs that shes organised another quote tomoro so will be in touch.   Ok, thank you n good bye.

Had a call out to a nice mansion and she liked my reviews on reliability.  Yep that should have been a warning bell right there!  So went and quoted over £100 for the windows only to find out the previous chap charged £35 and hence he didnt turn up often and she cant work out why 🤔  its not quite her fault its the numpty who made a huge mistake on pricing. Yet needless to say i dont expect her calling back.

Then the final one, cleaned today and signed upto gocardless straight away all good and 8 wkly cleaning etc etc.  Then i vet a text saying just to let me know she moves out in july and the house mate will take over...........sure they will 🤔🤔

This is why i like my work expanding via recommendations. Not keen on facebook but its what the majority use.   
facebook.com/1NKServices
1NKServices.co.uk

Slacky

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2019, 07:16:48 am »
So be the minority.

Feck FB.

Splash & dash

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2019, 07:56:24 pm »
I’m not interested in going and pricing a job for 20 quid less than I would normally clean it for I’ve been there years ago,if anything I go well above the price I know most will quote.
The thing is with this job once you have the job more often than not you’ll have it for a long time,I don’t want to be thinking I’ve gone in well under here I could be earning more up the road. £70 for something like the above garden center is not worth the hassle I’ve said it before commercial is not what it was,you used to be home by 12   4-500 hundred pound in the bank.
Those days we’ll and truly over

To be honest I never had "those days" myself.  Maybe I was too nervous to price that high for a few hours work - I also thought "too good to be true" and that the person agreeing to such high rates wouldn't pay.

Mind you saying that I recently passed on a nice earner from a neighbour who wanted an office one off clean done on a Sunday. I wasn't interested but passed it on to Dan the Man who got £350 for working eight hours on a Sunday. Not extortionate but a nice earner if like him you view a Sunday as any other day of the week.

The bonus was he was asked to do it again 3 months later and being much less dirty he did it in 6 hours for the same money.


£350 for 8 hours on a Sunday lol  wouldn’t work for that on a week day let alone a Sunday that’s very poor money

P @ F

  • Posts: 6319
Re: Time waster
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2019, 09:31:05 pm »
Is this where the queue starts for the willie wavers 🤣🤣🤣
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

AuRavelling79

  • Posts: 25339
Re: Time waster
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2019, 09:47:27 pm »
I’m not interested in going and pricing a job for 20 quid less than I would normally clean it for I’ve been there years ago,if anything I go well above the price I know most will quote.
The thing is with this job once you have the job more often than not you’ll have it for a long time,I don’t want to be thinking I’ve gone in well under here I could be earning more up the road. £70 for something like the above garden center is not worth the hassle I’ve said it before commercial is not what it was,you used to be home by 12   4-500 hundred pound in the bank.
Those days we’ll and truly over

To be honest I never had "those days" myself.  Maybe I was too nervous to price that high for a few hours work - I also thought "too good to be true" and that the person agreeing to such high rates wouldn't pay.

Mind you saying that I recently passed on a nice earner from a neighbour who wanted an office one off clean done on a Sunday. I wasn't interested but passed it on to Dan the Man who got £350 for working eight hours on a Sunday. Not extortionate but a nice earner if like him you view a Sunday as any other day of the week.

The bonus was he was asked to do it again 3 months later and being much less dirty he did it in 6 hours for the same money.


£350 for 8 hours on a Sunday lol  wouldn’t work for that on a week day let alone a Sunday that’s very poor money

Yawn.  ::)roll
It's a game of three halves!

Splash & dash

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2019, 10:08:10 pm »
I’m not interested in going and pricing a job for 20 quid less than I would normally clean it for I’ve been there years ago,if anything I go well above the price I know most will quote.
The thing is with this job once you have the job more often than not you’ll have it for a long time,I don’t want to be thinking I’ve gone in well under here I could be earning more up the road. £70 for something like the above garden center is not worth the hassle I’ve said it before commercial is not what it was,you used to be home by 12   4-500 hundred pound in the bank.
Those days we’ll and truly over

To be honest I never had "those days" myself.  Maybe I was too nervous to price that high for a few hours work - I also thought "too good to be true" and that the person agreeing to such high rates wouldn't pay.

Mind you saying that I recently passed on a nice earner from a neighbour who wanted an office one off clean done on a Sunday. I wasn't interested but passed it on to Dan the Man who got £350 for working eight hours on a Sunday. Not extortionate but a nice earner if like him you view a Sunday as any other day of the week.

The bonus was he was asked to do it again 3 months later and being much less dirty he did it in 6 hours for the same money.


£350 for 8 hours on a Sunday lol  wouldn’t work for that on a week day let alone a Sunday that’s very poor money

Yawn.  ::)roll



yawn all you like who in there right mind will work 8 hours on a Sunday for that ??? Evan a sole trader going slow should be able to do a minimum of £250-300 for a normal working day Monday to Friday , I know trad cleaners that do £300 per day , unless you are cleaning stuff for very low prices it’s not difficult to achieve those figures starting at 8:30 and home by 15:00 , so why would you work on a Sunday for £350 ??? Madness

Smudger

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2019, 10:11:30 pm »
Oh dear - here we go.........


Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

AuRavelling79

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2019, 10:45:07 pm »
Well Splash and Dash, not everyone lives in the rarified echelons of window cleaning that you obviously occupy. Read what I wrote again ...

"I wasn't interested but passed it on to Dan the Man who got £350 for working eight hours on a Sunday. Not extortionate but a nice earner if like him you view a Sunday as any other day of the week."


Note especially the bit in red and I'd suggest that most window cleaners offered £350 for a days work would take it.

But not you. So that's fine.
It's a game of three halves!

P @ F

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2019, 01:14:50 am »
I would  work 2 days for that to be honest as it required no stop start malarkey
Some people are just greedy , 175 a day is still 875 for a Mon to Fri
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

harleyman

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2019, 12:41:49 pm »
I must live in the wrong part of the country and shyte prices mmm second thoughts I do

harleyman

  • Posts: 432
Re: Time waster
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2019, 02:00:48 pm »
I take all this with a pinch of salt its all bravado if you ask me they will have shyte prices like the rest of us ,don't let em fool you

Shrek

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Re: Time waster
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2019, 02:53:49 pm »
I take all this with a pinch of salt its all bravado if you ask me they will have shyte prices like the rest of us ,don't let em fool you

Yes , everyone in the country has ‘shyte ‘ prices  ::)roll

You are Dave f aren’t you? Moved from Yorkshire because of your ‘shyte’ prices to Scotland where prices are still ‘shyte’
 ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll

NK will be doing the same move soon 😂