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dazmond

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yellowing frames.......
« on: July 25, 2018, 10:22:34 pm »
ive noticed more and more of my customers white UPVC frames turning yellow in places over the last month or two......

any ideas lads?....im thinking it must be the strong sunshine?i dunno.........

i know one thing WFP wont shift the yellowing at all...... ::)roll
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SB Cleaning

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2018, 10:23:54 pm »
That's the hot water doing that ;D

Rob.Hall

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2018, 10:25:33 pm »
Yep ...its the hot water  ;D

G Griffin

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2018, 11:47:07 pm »
That's the hot water doing that ;D
Don't be stupid  >:(.
It's the electronic reel  ;D.
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AuRavelling79

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2018, 07:59:25 am »
It's the nut behind the steering wheel.
It's a game of three halves!

dazmond

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2018, 08:14:08 am »
any serious answers what this could be please?have you guys not noticed this too?

have a good look at your customers white plastic frames when your working today......its got to be a chemical reaction in the plastic to UV rays from the strong sunshine as this has only developed over the last few months.....
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Dry Clean

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2018, 08:37:45 am »
any serious answers what this could be please?have you guys not noticed this too?

have a good look at your customers white plastic frames when your working today......its got to be a chemical reaction in the plastic to UV rays from the strong sunshine as this has only developed over the last few months.....



My upvc windows are over 20 years old and as white as the day they where installed, faulty or poor quality upvc can go yellow
but it would be highly unlikely that all your customers would end up with faulty or poor quality frames.

Try looking at them without sunglasses. lol.

andyM

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2018, 08:38:35 am »
The only times I've ever noticed discolouration to white window frames and upvc is if there is a nearby neighbour who regularly uses a log burner (over Winter) or has fires in their garden, which leaves a grey stain.
I've not noticed yellowing.
I suppose it might be due to some local environmental pollution, are there any Factories, Chemical Plants nearby?
One of the Plebs

dd

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2018, 11:58:33 am »
It could be hot water affecting some of the frames.

Shrek

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dazmond

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2018, 12:10:39 pm »
Cheers shrek... ;)

I thought so...it's only on certain customers frames but enough for me to notice....

Not seen any yellowing today  up to now.....it must be certain types of plastic frames....

Anyway better get back out there....it's like a fridge sat in my van! ;D
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Dry Clean

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2018, 12:25:20 pm »
Its your hot water, anything above 50% degrees effects Unplasticised PVC, time for your customers to sue.

https://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=770

SB Cleaning

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2018, 12:30:18 pm »
Cheers shrek... ;)

I thought so...it's only on certain customers frames but enough for me to notice....

Not seen any yellowing today  up to now.....it must be certain types of plastic frames....

Anyway better get back out there....it's like a fridge sat in my van! ;D
You might need to go to spec savers Daz ;D

Splash & dash

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2018, 11:03:59 pm »
Its your hot water, anything above 50% degrees effects Unplasticised PVC, time for your customers to sue.

https://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=770





We use water a lot hotter than 50 degrees and haven’t got any customers with yellowing windows or any other plastics for that matter and have been flat out with gfs cleans over the last few weeks

Splash & dash

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2018, 11:06:31 pm »
Thinking about this again daz  you  use Di only don’t you ? Could it be anything to do with that we are ro and haven’t experienced anything like what you are describing

G Griffin

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2018, 11:45:40 pm »
Or that Daz wears Ali G sunglasses?
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Dry Clean

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2018, 06:52:04 am »
Its your hot water, anything above 50% degrees effects Unplasticised PVC, time for your customers to sue.

https://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=770





We use water a lot hotter than 50 degrees and haven’t got any customers with yellowing windows or any other plastics for that matter and have been flat out with gfs cleans over the last few weeks

Plenty of people get away with things they shouldnt be doing, its there to read in the link, you shouldnt be putting water on UPVC frames thats above 50degrees,

dazmond

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2018, 07:44:53 am »
Thinking about this again daz  you  use Di only don’t you ? Could it be anything to do with that we are ro and haven’t experienced anything like what you are describing

its nothing to do with using  DI water or using  hot water to clean them........its the UV rays and stuff from nearby plants and trees....... ;)
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dazmond

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2018, 07:46:52 am »
Its your hot water, anything above 50% degrees effects Unplasticised PVC, time for your customers to sue.

https://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=770





We use water a lot hotter than 50 degrees and haven’t got any customers with yellowing windows or any other plastics for that matter and have been flat out with gfs cleans over the last few weeks

Plenty of people get away with things they shouldnt be doing, its there to read in the link, you shouldnt be putting water on UPVC frames thats above 50degrees,

its nothing to do with using hot water to clean windows and frames sean.absolutely not....... 8)
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dazmond

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Re: yellowing frames.......
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2018, 07:48:16 am »
ill take some pics next time a come across them......
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