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Racheal Cross

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Softwash advise
« on: April 17, 2018, 08:37:27 pm »


Hi

After some advise please.

We are new to render cleaning and need to clean the above building.

Could anyone advise on best softwash mix to use and any other tips too please.

Thanks

Racheal

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2018, 09:18:15 pm »
Do you have wfp Back pack ?  If so you want some sodium hypochlorite between 10-15% strength , put 4 parts water to 1 part hypo into the back pack mix it up well then wet the garage wall down with a garden hose also damp down any vegetation you don’t want to damage , then apply the hypo mix to the walls through the wfp brush have the flow rate quite low and gently rub the solution into the wall leave it for up to 45 muinits if there are still green areas re apply more hypo if it’s looking clean rinse well with the garden hose job done

Racheal Cross

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2018, 10:19:51 pm »
Thanks for the reply!
We have looked at those....we currently softwash ground level and use an IPS pro sprayer...I'm guessing this may not work for high level as despite the reach being ok the spray may be bad?

Is that right? :-\

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2018, 10:33:00 pm »
Ups sprayers don’t have the best reputation but if you want to spray it on it will work be careful with a fine mist spray as this will drift far more readily use the appropriate ppe and let it dwell for 45 muinits or so then give it a scrub with a brush and then rinse you will end up with the same results , any sprayer should be able to apply the product if you have a wfp you can put a spray nozzle on the end and use it as a high level sprayer

Racheal Cross

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2018, 10:44:57 pm »
Thanks. Yes our IPS hasn't been the greatest so maybe a back pack wfp is the way forward!

Thanks! 

chris scott

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 02:20:57 pm »
Algoclear pro.
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https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Kev Martin

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2018, 03:07:08 pm »
PSRP Spray & Walk Away
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 05:15:58 pm »
PSRP Spray & Walk Away


Kevin I assume this is the stuff you sell can you explaine what things this product will do and the time scale for it doing it , will it kill red, black and green algy on krend and if so how long before it looks totaly clean we do a lot of this type of work but customers want instant results so usually we use hypo but am intrested in other products any information would be good thanks

Darran Smith PRSS

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2018, 06:23:17 am »
Have you considered coming on a course and seeing how easily red, black and green can be removed from these types of surfaces?

We have one coming up in May...
When you want the very best SoftWashing Equipment for your business.

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2018, 08:35:26 pm »
Have you considered coming on a course and seeing how easily red, black and green can be removed from these types of surfaces?

We have one coming up in May...



I have been using hypo for years but am looking at maybe different products but most things like algo clear pro take a while to work and customers want instant results any info would be good thanks

Kev Martin

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2018, 01:18:17 pm »
PSRP Spray & Walk Away


Kevin I assume this is the stuff you sell can you explaine what things this product will do and the time scale for it doing it , will it kill red, black and green algy on krend and if so how long before it looks totaly clean we do a lot of this type of work but customers want instant results so usually we use hypo but am intrested in other products any information would be good thanks

The product works very similarly to Algoclear.  It needs a dwell time to work.  So if none of your customers are patient enough to wait and don't give a to$$ about the environment then my best advice would be "your probably better off sticking with Hypo quite frankly."
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2018, 11:25:32 pm »
PSRP Spray & Walk Away


Kevin I assume this is the stuff you sell can you explaine what things this product will do and the time scale for it doing it , will it kill red, black and green algy on krend and if so how long before it looks totaly clean we do a lot of this type of work but customers want instant results so usually we use hypo but am intrested in other products any information would be good thanks

The product works very similarly to Algoclear.  It needs a dwell time to work.  So if none of your customers are patient enough to wait and don't give a to$$ about the environment then my best advice would be "your probably better off sticking with Hypo quite frankly."



Most customers want instant results and if Ime honest if I was paying good money for a job to be done I would probably want that too : as for hypo damaging the environment unless Ime wrong my understanding is that after 1 hour the product is dead and harmless especially when it’s well diluted it is classed as safe to wash to drains according to the environmental health officer ??? I would like to use different products but yet  again there isn’t much help offered hear just sarcasm you haven’t answered any of the above questions , I have looked on your web site and the product is there for sale but very little information about dilution rates how to use it etc , I feel it’s a pity that a person with the vast experience you have seams reluctant to offer help and advice to ones like myself who are genuinely intrested In trying new products , it would evan expand your sales , but the way you come over isn’t conducive to gaining new customers pity really but there you go

Kev Martin

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2018, 11:57:32 pm »
PSRP Spray & Walk Away


Kevin I assume this is the stuff you sell can you explaine what things this product will do and the time scale for it doing it , will it kill red, black and green algy on krend and if so how long before it looks totaly clean we do a lot of this type of work but customers want instant results so usually we use hypo but am intrested in other products any information would be good thanks

The product works very similarly to Algoclear.  It needs a dwell time to work.  So if none of your customers are patient enough to wait and don't give a to$$ about the environment then my best advice would be "your probably better off sticking with Hypo quite frankly."



Most customers want instant results and if Ime honest if I was paying good money for a job to be done I would probably want that too : as for hypo damaging the environment unless Ime wrong my understanding is that after 1 hour the product is dead and harmless especially when it’s well diluted it is classed as safe to wash to drains according to the environmental health officer ??? I would like to use different products but yet  again there isn’t much help offered hear just sarcasm you haven’t answered any of the above questions , I have looked on your web site and the product is there for sale but very little information about dilution rates how to use it etc , I feel it’s a pity that a person with the vast experience you have seams reluctant to offer help and advice to ones like myself who are genuinely intrested In trying new products , it would evan expand your sales , but the way you come over isn’t conducive to gaining new customers pity really but there you go

I offer help and advice to everyone who wants it.  Your posts are in general negative with other people as well, not just me.  I will happily send you MSDS sheets on the product but you need to realise all our products work on a dilution rate and dwell time according to the level of contamination  on the surface and every job is different.  You either make your customers aware that there is no quick solution or answer to any problem regardless of whether there is mould present or not.  All PSRP products are developed through years of research and development and all work with an appropriate dwell time dictated by the level of contamination.  My solutions and explanations are a result of vast experience in hard floor cleaning and restoration.  Patience and a good understanding of how chemicals work achieves success everytime it is not sarcasm, if you or your customers want a quick instant solution then maybe our products are not for you.  Alternatively, you could try them first?  You may be surprised.
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Darran Smith PRSS

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2018, 06:20:03 am »
Have you considered coming on a course and seeing how easily red, black and green can be removed from these types of surfaces?

We have one coming up in May...



I have been using hypo for years but am looking at maybe different products but most things like algo clear pro take a while to work and customers want instant results any info would be good thanks

Our products have been manufactured to safely mix with bleach - we teach you everything you need to know about using them safely.  Plus correct spraying techniques etc - We are only having the grandmaster of SoftWashing flying over to teach class as well as two veteran softwashing guys who both have multiple softwashing vans and years of experience - 399 including daytime food - where will you learn 25 years experience for so little money. Don't miss your chance - you can read all about it on here there is free advice and most work - but 3 full days will get you where you need to be faster
When you want the very best SoftWashing Equipment for your business.

Aqua Power Solutions

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2018, 09:28:58 pm »


For a longer lasting result hypo is not the answer . Explain to your customers  the various  cleaning methods and the pro's and con's
Ed
Aqua Power Solutions external property maintenance 01423 541 400 Mobile 0752 158 3240  Visit our Facebook page for examples of our work https://www.facebook.com/Aqua-Power-Solutions-332485570200950/

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2018, 10:31:28 pm »
This is a job we did in minus 2 temperature front and back took 2 hours to achieve used 15 ltr of out of date 10% strength hypo this is what most customers want and expect how long would it take for bio products to get this type of finish ? Would they get this kind of result ? I would like to try different bio products but it seams to be a black art my original questions have still not been answered I have no idear why people either want to help educate ones or they don’t it appeared to me that there is a small group of people that chat among themselves but if someone like me asked a genuine question as I am intrested in learning there seams to be great resistance in answering quite simple questions , hypo is also a lot cheaper than bio products so Ime surprised that the suppliers arnt explaining why I should be buying there product as it’s so much better than hypo but again no they don’t defend there product why is this ? I generaly hypo the job and after rinsing if the customer wants it doing with algo clear pro type of product to slow down re growth we do do that , am I right in saying that it will slow it down ? I have done tests on my own property and it does seam to bear this theory out , take t

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2018, 10:44:04 pm »
Have you considered coming on a course and seeing how easily red, black and green can be removed from these types of surfaces?

We have one coming up in May...



I have been using hypo for years but am looking at maybe different products but most things like algo clear pro take a while to work and customers want instant results any info would be good thanks

Our products have been manufactured to safely mix with bleach - we teach you everything you need to know about using them safely.  Plus correct spraying techniques etc - We are only having the grandmaster of SoftWashing flying over to teach class as well as two veteran softwashing guys who both have multiple softwashing vans and years of experience - 399 including daytime food - where will you learn 25 years experience for so little money. Don't miss your chance - you can read all about it on here there is free advice and most work - but 3 full days will get you where you need to be faster




Hi Darren thanks for the offer but Ime afrade we are far to busy with work at the moment to be able to take time off , compared to you we are a very small set up but are quite experienced using hypo for soft washing again we don’t have all the nice equipment like your set up : we are primarily window cleaners and started doing building wash downs about 10 years ago , I dont class myself a professional at all I am generaly self taught by trial and error in the early days and by googling softwashing in USA that’s how I have learnt how to do the job and I expect I still have a lot to learn but we are doing more and more of this type of work year on year so much so that I have been thinking about getting a dedicated vehicle set up just for softwashing we don’t promote or advertise it but there is so much really bad algy problems down hear I could easily have a couple of vehicles doing it full time I am just up to my eyes with windows I haven’t had the time to seriously set it up and promote it , I will give you a ring and maybe we can have a chat : thanks for your time in replying to this post and being helpful 😂😂😂😂😂

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2018, 10:51:27 pm »


For a longer lasting result hypo is not the answer . Explain to your customers  the various  cleaning methods and the pro's and con's
Ed




Looking good how long did it take for bio to get it to that finish ? Also  probebly a stupid question but when you apply the bio product and it takes days weeks etc to work how is the dirt remover from the wall ? Without scrubbing and rinsing ? I know people say over time it will get washed off with the rain but there are always areas on the properties like under the eaves and sheltered spots that it won’t get washed off from , hope this makes sense

Mike Halliday

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2018, 07:28:10 am »
Sodium Hyperclorite is an incredibly effective and versatile chemical it only has a couple of problems, it’s readily available and it’s cheap,  which means their  is no profit to be made in stocking & selling it.

I think this is why the only people who I see speaking against it are suppliers, I never see men who use it day after day negatively commenting. I also think if there was a better alternative to S/H then people would use it.  most companies do want to give the best most,  professional clean possible and will use whatever gives that result
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Smudger

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Re: Softwash advise
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2018, 08:03:12 am »
A very good point mike

Reflections - your Doing great, nothing wrong with being self taught

When I last checked up on things like algo  clear it carried various harmful warning stickers and to be honest nothing will keep algae off  a surface forever the weather sees to that

Don’t be pressured into buying expensive products when you are using what in my opinion is something that can’t be beaten

Darran
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

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