[The Jester of Wibbly]

Interesting how they valued their business without any assets.  Balance sheet says it all.

As the dragons will say. Stupid valuation, I'm out.

I smell a con

[Plankton]

Interesting how they valued their business without any assets.  Balance sheet says it all.

As the dragons will say. Stupid valuation, I'm out.

I smell a con

Can picture big Duncan sitting there saying "you want me to give you 50 Thousand Pounds of My money for 15% of your business".... "what's your valuation based on? What money have you invested in the business?" "Yer havin a laugh... I'm out!" "Ye must be stupid"
But then again he wasn't always right.

[Simon Trapani]

Interesting how they valued their business without any assets.  Balance sheet says it all.

As the dragons will say. Stupid valuation, I'm out.

I smell a con

Can picture big Duncan sitting there saying "you want me to give you 50 Thousand Pounds of My money for 15% of your business".... "what's your valuation based on? What money have you invested in the business?" "Yer havin a laugh... I'm out!" "Ye must be stupid"
But then again he wasn't always right.

I was thinking exactly that but was reluctant to put my head above the parapet.

[Steve Newres]

Ive only got 6 windows on my place and they want £27.00

One off?

Yup.

I’d say that’s not too bad to be honest. I guess it just depends how much someone needs the work.

[Slacky]

https://www.facebook.com/oshaclean/posts/2082299665336409?comment_id=2082356561997386&notif_id=1516309065593444&notif_t=feed_comment

[Slacky]

Ive only got 6 windows on my place and they want £27.00

One off?

Yup.

I’d say that’s not too bad to be honest. I guess it just depends how much someone needs the work.

4 ground floor windows and 2 first floor. None any bigger than 3' square.

It's taking the pi$$. Its 5 minutes work. If you can as a trader fine, but they're having a laugh trying to charge that, they haven't go clue. These business plans always fail. They will too. No-one wants a middle man when it comes to getting your windows cleaned. Most people want some sort of personal relationship with their shiner, not this business model that is based on exactly the same that've failed in the past.

[Slacky]

If all my work were priced at the rate they're trying to charge for my place Id only have to be out there 1.5 hours a day.

[Slacky]

£170 for a regular clean on a 4 bed detached with a conservatory. Regular.

[Steve Newres]

If all my work were priced at the rate they're trying to charge for my place Id only have to be out there 1.5 hours a day.

What would you charge? I’d charge £18 as a regular.

[Slacky]

If it were local £15.00., maybe £18.00, would depend on the day I guess and customer. If it wasn't I wouldn't travel.

[Splash & dash]

Just put in my details not available in your area at the moment leave your details when we can help we will be in touch !,,,,,,,  what a laugh some professional company this must be , live in the middle of a town with a population of around 17000 , not in the outer hebredise 😂😂😂😂😂

[rosskesava]

Perhaps or maybe they are not so stupid after all.

They must be able to or are reading this so maybe they are seeing what doesn't work or not what to do.

Maybe we are giving them ideas?

[Steve Newres]

Perhaps or maybe they are not so stupid after all.

They must be able to or are reading this so maybe they are seeing what doesn't work or not what to do.

Maybe we are giving them ideas?

I doubt it, but I wouldn’t give them £50k for back end tinkering. What that really means is money to keep going. If it was £50k for advertising it might be different.

Really what they are doing is trying to fix a problem that the internet fixed 15 years ago. Yes, it used to be difficult to find a window cleaner, but now towns are flooded with them and most of them are on Google. And actually those that search for a window cleaner on Google are the least desirable customers as 80% of them just want a one off. I’ve stopped Adwords for this reason.

The only sustainable model for pure window cleaning is repeat custom.

[Soupy]

Sometimes you need to play devils advocate.

Whilst i personally think so far they havent really engaged with us on this forum, it looks to me they are seeking to gain common ground and advertise shares on here which gives us the opportunity for voting rights. This shows that they are reading this forum and they have noted our concerns.

Just think about that for a minute and run through your mind what this means for us. We have a possibility of sharing in the success of Osha, and have controling rights.. they have asked us to invest. Thats very smart, and you sometimes need to take a second or third glance.

Now i have gone against the grain and made an investment in Osha. If they do end up being the next Uber then its a no brainer. (I dont think it will work myself, but id love to see me be proved wrong)

If you want to give them a cut of the money for the work that you've done (without them having to do owt), I suppose it's only right that you get a cut of their money too.

[Slacky]

Whilst i personally think so far they havent really engaged with us on this forum

They'd be cut to shreds if they came on here. Admin knows that and has probably told them to keep off the grass and not to play with the children.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Whilst i personally think so far they havent really engaged with us on this forum

They'd be cut to shreds if they came on here. Admin knows that and has probably told them to keep off the grass and not to play with the children.

If they can't be bothered to probably research or listen to industry experts like us they will fail.    Totally in denial and seems to be in their dreamy bubble world treating window cleaners like they are thick idiots who can't manage their business.

[Soupy]

If they can't be bothered to probably research or listen to industry experts like us they will fail.    Totally in denial and seems to be in their dreamy bubble world treating window cleaners like they are thick idiots who can't manage their business.

It's interesting that you say that, I agree and on the whole it seems to be the consensus.

The problem with comparing them to Uber is that Uber employ (in a round about way) their own drivers. Uber have totally alienated most cabbies and the like, but Uber don't rely on cabbies and established taxi drivers to carry out the work for them.

If Osha could find a way to get the industry - the people actually carrying out the work - behind them, then their business model starts to look much, much better.

[Soupy]

Let's not forget, these are the same people who branded all y'all "just" window cleaners

[Nick Day]

I have no doubt that if one of you guys get it right, WFP upstairs windows, squeegee bottoms, specialise on the detailing and you will make a killing. I still think they should have called themselves "Wosha".

[Tom-01]

Taken from their crowd funding ad:

"Everything takes place online, including payment, which means no more waiting in for a window cleaner to pick up the cash, so householders now have a really convenient way to arrange either a regular or one-off clean."

They're still peddling the rubbish that 'no more waiting in for a window cleaner to pick up the cash' is relevant. It's not.