[SB Cleaning]

Some people are just rubbish at window cleaning that's the problem

[8weekly]

Some people are just rubbish at window cleaning that's the problem

Or too fussy.

[tony day]

Nearly always rinse brush on as it's quicker and no problems working when it's windy. Would have more problems working on a windy day with rinse off method. It's quicker working rinse on and less tiring or straining. Why on earth would one work rinse off, ...it's harder work, slower and doesn't clean half as good. It doesn't matter too much what brush or jets you use, it's just down to a good technique

All this talk about technique. Any chance of a video then..?

So, you clean the a window rinsing on and it spots. Do you then reclean the same window rinsing off or do you clean two windows - one rinsed on and one off?

So flow on 60 with fan jets. Method: Clean frames, windows then build up a flow of water then at the top of frames & chase the brush down.

[8weekly]

Nearly always rinse brush on as it's quicker and no problems working when it's windy. Would have more problems working on a windy day with rinse off method. It's quicker working rinse on and less tiring or straining. Why on earth would one work rinse off, ...it's harder work, slower and doesn't clean half as good. It doesn't matter too much what brush or jets you use, it's just down to a good technique

All this talk about technique. Any chance of a video then..?

So, you clean the a window rinsing on and it spots. Do you then reclean the same window rinsing off or do you clean two windows - one rinsed on and one off?

So flow on 60 with fan jets. Method: Clean frames, windows then build up a flow of water then at the top of frames & chase the brush down.

Ok, I clean frame - good scrub on top frame, then sides, then without lifting twice over the glass on 100 to allow lots of water.  I don't hugely rush so that lots of water flows over the glass. I do this with fans or pencils and whatever brush I'm using. Pump's always on full flow.

[nathankaye]

On full flow you'ld be able to rinse down the whole house by standing in garden   
And the next house n one after that as well
😂😂

[P @ F]

Another stab here , could it be that PPB water is just too clean , i saw once that pure water actually attracts the dirt , so the purer the more attractive it could be , prob just wrong BUT who knows ?

WTF!

No need for that matey , just trying to help you by thinking outside the box , we all know that PPM pure water attracts dirt , you are using ultra pure PPB water that should by rights attract  more dirt , would it not be possible for this super water to actually grab dirt particles from the atmosphere ?
I can only then assume its user error or the PPB machine is broke 

Rich   

[tony day]

Another stab here , could it be that PPB water is just too clean , i saw once that pure water actually attracts the dirt , so the purer the more attractive it could be , prob just wrong BUT who knows ?

WTF!

No need for that matey , just trying to help you by thinking outside the box , we all know that PPM pure water attracts dirt , you are using ultra pure PPB water that should by rights attract  more dirt , would it not be possible for this super water to actually grab dirt particles from the atmosphere ?
I can only then assume its user error or the PPB machine is broke 

Rich

Fair point!

[duncan h]

I used to swap from pencil to fan all the time at first. Changed brushes etc.
I ended up using fans on the glass,full flow. The water really cascades down the glass
I rinse on the glass as it MUCH less wear on my joints and not because it does a better job. Rinsing off the glass causes splashing. Keep the flow high and ass concentrated in 1 spot as possible .
Pencil jets are great for moving spiders webs about

[philb]

Can you guys please explain this a bit for a newbie? Are you talking about the difference between rinsing the glass with the brush touching the glass or with the brush an inch or so off? Or is there more to it?

[Dry Clean]

Can you guys please explain this a bit for a newbie? Are you talking about the difference between rinsing the glass with the brush touching the glass or with the brush an inch or so off? Or is there more to it?

Nope you've hit the nail on the head, some people rinse with the brush off the glass some rinse with it on and others don't
even bother rinsing, they will all tell you that their method is the only way to do it right.
High flows, ultra pure, nuclear resin, jet shapes, genetically modified brushes, water heated to a sweet spot, plastic restoring additives the list goes on.
Windows cleaners have turned what is basically removing a small amount of dust from a pane of glass into a complicated
science that even Stephen Hawking would have trouble getting his head around.

[AuRavelling79]

Can Steven Hawking even move his head? Let alone get it around anything ...

[G Griffin]

no compliants in 11 years trading,

Mine are the same but I need the money so they have put up with me.
Eggs and a sliver of bamboo if they don't.

[8weekly]

Rinse on with monophimont bristlle brush, pensil jets, rinse from on the top frame down, no compliants in 11 years trading, speed 3 propak,ps any propaks for sale?

No complaints in 11 years? Really?

[Tosh]

He never answers his phone.


Some people are like that.

[G Griffin]

Rinse on with monophimont bristlle brush, pensil jets, rinse from on the top frame down, no compliants in 11 years trading, speed 3 propak,ps any propaks for sale?

No complaints in 11 years? Really?

Loads of complaints- maybe silent ones- if he has no compliants.

[tony day]

Can you guys please explain this a bit for a newbie? Are you talking about the difference between rinsing the glass with the brush touching the glass or with the brush an inch or so off? Or is there more to it?

Nope you've hit the nail on the head, some people rinse with the brush off the glass some rinse with it on and others don't
even bother rinsing, they will all tell you that their method is the only way to do it right.
High flows, ultra pure, nuclear resin, jet shapes, genetically modified brushes, water heated to a sweet spot, plastic restoring additives the list goes on.
Windows cleaners have turned what is basically removing a small amount of dust from a pane of glass into a complicated
science that even Stephen Hawking would have trouble getting his head around.

Spot on! Window cleaning has become very over technical!

[tony day]

Can Steven Hawking even move his head? Let alone get it around anything ...

Not enough glass to pay for Steven Hawking's expertise. But there is enough glass to own, and pay you for one day!

[AuRavelling79]

Can you guys please explain this a bit for a newbie? Are you talking about the difference between rinsing the glass with the brush touching the glass or with the brush an inch or so off? Or is there more to it?

Nope you've hit the nail on the head, some people rinse with the brush off the glass some rinse with it on and others don't
even bother rinsing, they will all tell you that their method is the only way to do it right.
High flows, ultra pure, nuclear resin, jet shapes, genetically modified brushes, water heated to a sweet spot, plastic restoring additives the list goes on.
Windows cleaners have turned what is basically removing a small amount of dust from a pane of glass into a complicated
science that even Stephen Hawking would have trouble getting his head around.

Spot on! Window cleaning has become very over technical!

That bit I've highlighted in red...

Is that an entreaty to us all? 

[Stoots]

Not spotting but leaves bits on the glass.

[nathankaye]

I think this could be a universal saying or perhaps just a British one. But a good worker doesn't blame his tools.

Whilst this might be a true saying,  Alex Gardiner once said he also doesn't like working with fan jets - he prefers pencil jets.

Being a good worker knows what equipment is best suited for the task at hand. So in Alex case he wasnt blaming fan jets for doing a poor job. But simply that for his work and set up, pencil jets are more suited.
Hence a good worker doesnt blame his equipment as a good worker knows what equipment he or she needs for the job at hand.....

As a modular thinker i assess all aspects of what could go wrong and why it's going wrong, and try every method to correct it! I'm not a lazy thinker or worker who has his pumps on full blast thinking well the DIRT DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE ATTITUDE! Any chance of a  video Nathaniel! Or what brush should a sceptic be using?

Ok just for you, a video i have done!!
Now you will have to put up with a shakey camera as its not easy holding a camera in one hand and a pole in other, so i tried holding the camera on the pole. Its enough to give general idea anyway.

This link to show brush n flow speed
https://youtu.be/70PwFdLutRc

This link for the cleaning
https://youtu.be/QUAHkJeTMSM

This link for the quality check
https://youtu.be/8plA3kklAR4

Obviously the technique n speed is normally better, but like i said holding a camera at the same time changes things slightly