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dave f

Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2017, 08:34:19 pm »
at last the pennys dropped .I best he is on a tropical beach  some where pssing him self at all the mugs that have bought it

NWH

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2017, 08:54:43 pm »
Like i said i did find it did give more slip on the glass but it does produce a film or scum that blocks the pipes on the system it was a nightmare trying to find the blockage initially. The same results can be found using double DI resin cans with RO water in at no higher than 3-4 PPM,I really notice the difference when the water is put through good quality resin a couple of times. I know some will say 000 is 000 but to me it seems to clean better in my mind maybe,but I can't help but see the difference when working with it.

duncan h

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2017, 08:54:48 pm »
Not had any issues. Don't put much in anymore. Got 2 bottles left, then ill try without for 6 months and see what happens
Have you never cleaned windows without Vision?


lol YES. v1 was the best but loads of bubbles. Eco one was rubbish. Couldn't tell the difference. Now it gives a better shine, thats about all.
Just water is much better to rince

NWH

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2017, 09:03:37 pm »
The inside of my pump was completely coated in what looked like detergent almost oily,like I say again good slip on the glass yes but glass is not fabric if you scrub it clean it'll be clean you can only get a piece of glass so clean no matter what you use to clean it with. To me it enables you need less elbow grease in some circumstances but it does leave something that clings to surfaces,it must do to block pipes-pumps.

Smurf

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2017, 09:06:50 pm »
I went to get some ecover dish soap out of the van recently. It looked like gloppy sick without the peas so threw it in the bin. ;D

NWH

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2017, 09:39:42 pm »
Gloopy sick lol,mind out people I'm about to be gloopy sick.

Smurf

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2017, 11:07:41 pm »
Gloopy sick lol,mind out people I'm about to be gloopy sick.

Without the peas don't forget  ;D

CleanClear

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2017, 11:24:36 pm »
Looks like everyone here washes their dishes in coldwater and expects it all to rinse away, no ones seen nothing in their filter bowls either..oh, hang on........
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G Griffin

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2017, 11:27:25 pm »
I stopped using it - makes no difference to the results on glass. My last bottle went thick so I binned it.
Shame.
I'm sure I read some of it's posts on here.
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Tosh

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2017, 12:23:42 am »
For some stopping using Vision is harder than stopping smoking. Thing is, just don't laugh at them. They're the sort that get mentioned in the bible, which is a lot more than some of us.

When Jesus was dying on the cross he was heard to mutter 'Forgive them for they know not what they do'. He was referring to Vision users when he said that.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Millsey

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2017, 10:39:57 am »
It seems to have made some of my customers windows easier to rinse..

Splash & dash

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2017, 04:30:11 pm »
Why do people use this stuff ?? You spend a fortune to remove impurities then tip this stuff into your tank then wonder why you have  problems . If you cannot get a good shine on the windows with just pure you need to look at your water quality, a reading of 000 is all you need to get good results . The word placebo comes to mind if you think this stuff is going to help !!!!! Waist of time and money

NWH

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2017, 04:56:29 pm »
It's not placebo it does give slip on the glass

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2017, 05:45:25 pm »
I didn't buy it to make the glass more slippery though. I bought it to make the finish shinier and there were also claims that it made white upvc cleaner, both of which proved untrue for me. So I stopped using it.
Hot pure water works best in my experience. And even that doesn't make the upvc any whiter.

Splash & dash

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2017, 08:55:16 pm »
M and c windowcleaning exactly all these clames and it doesn't deliver , I totally agre 000 tds and hot water gives the best results , why do you need slip on the glass ? What does that accomplish ?  Use a nano coating if that's what you want

duncan h

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2017, 09:39:06 pm »
M and c windowcleaning exactly all these clames and it doesn't deliver , I totally agre 000 tds and hot water gives the best results , why do you need slip on the glass ? What does that accomplish ?  Use a nano coating if that's what you want
Why do you need hot water?
I have used cold water for years with good results?
Each to their own

nathankaye

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2017, 10:17:23 pm »
Ive a new product to try n sell to the market for wfp users.
Its a clear liquid and thankfully non scented. From market research i was able to perceive that most wfp dont care too much for the floral smell in their tank or van.
The product can be heated as well without changing the tds level. It doesnt require heating but some users may find it requires a fraction less effort on stubborn marks, like baked on bird poop.
The aqua formation helps with the glide of the brush's filaments over the glass giving protection to the customers windows.

Theres only one problem that i have left to tackle and thats the name of the product. PURE WATER just seems, well too obvious  ;D ;D
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Tosh

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2017, 10:18:50 pm »
It's not placebo it does give slip on the glass

So does chip fat.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

NWH

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2017, 10:38:58 pm »
I'm not joking I reckon the stuff that forms a film looks a lot like KYJelly or lube,it feels very like it on the fingers lol

duncan h

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Re: Vision Problems
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2017, 10:58:07 pm »
I'm not joking I reckon the stuff that forms a film looks a lot like KYJelly or lube,it feels very like it on the fingers lol
Ill take you word for it lol.
So does PTFE in car additives.