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Shrek

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2016, 09:44:47 pm »
What an idiot

slap bash

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2016, 09:07:27 pm »
Good for this industry.

Tosh

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2016, 09:50:20 pm »
Pair of scissors?
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Smurf

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2016, 09:55:06 pm »
There is no smoke without fire as they say. Still a moment of madness is all that it takes to land yourself in the crapper.

CleanClear

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2016, 11:54:21 pm »
There is no smoke without fire as they say. Still a moment of madness is all that it takes to land yourself in the crapper.

There is smoke without fire in Merseyside if you go cleaning the wrong streets. They are pretty Neanderthal around here. Funny thing is i clean in Upton, where i think (from looking at the news report) that it happened, and i clean in Baycliffe Rd where the stabber lives !!!  ;D
 I hope Mark Jones (the stabber) decides to canvass the local area to drum up new business and a new round for himself. That will be fun !!!   ;D
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Shrek

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2016, 02:35:33 pm »
There is no smoke without fire as they say. Still a moment of madness is all that it takes to land yourself in the crapper.

There is smoke without fire in Merseyside if you go cleaning the wrong streets. They are pretty Neanderthal around here. Funny thing is i clean in Upton, where i think (from looking at the news report) that it happened, and i clean in Baycliffe Rd where the stabber lives !!!  ;D
 I hope Mark Jones (the stabber) decides to canvass the local area to drum up new business and a new round for himself. That will be fun !!!   ;D

I take it you have a pair of nail cutting scissors too  ???
I worked in Liverpool for a week , everyone was great!
I did constantly hear sirens going past me and saw a lot of chavs of dirt bikes driving on pavements 🙄

Smurf

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2016, 02:51:04 pm »
Unfortunately anyone can buy/nick a bucket & ladders and call themselves a window cleaner.
There are plenty of nutters and x cons about no matter where you work...I call them "GET OFF MY PATCH brigade"
Worst ones as in this case are the idiots that buy a round from another idiot. Then have a falling out over it and one gets banged up.

Fortunately the window cleaners that I have spoken to  and I've met quite a few seem decent hard working folk and understand that the custards employ them not the other way around.

Leeds

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2016, 07:39:17 am »
Bet you the round is worth £52

SeanK

Re: Window wars!
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2016, 09:20:15 am »
Most disputes break out when one shiner starts rubbishing another shiners work to try and win it, Iv taken work
from other shiners where the customers have told me about the things they where getting up too, poor quality, missing windows and so on, I don't repeat them as even though I have no problem taking their work I wont be responsible for ruining their reputation, that ones up to them.

Soupy

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2016, 09:27:00 am »
Most disputes break out when one shiner starts rubbishing another shiners work to try and win it, Iv taken work
from other shiners where the customers have told me about the things they where getting up too, poor quality, missing window and so on, I don't repeat them as even though I have no problem taking their work I wont be responsible for ruining their reputation, that ones up to them.

It's funny innit, I've gotten work where the customer has said things like that about her old window cleaner but I know that the outfit that was cleaning her windows previously was a quality one.

Most bad reports you hear from customers are due to miscommunication more than anything else. Cleaning windows isn't rocket science and I'm sure 99% of the time if they knew they'd done something wrong they'd have been happy to sort it.
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Smurf

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2016, 09:49:58 am »
To be honest I take what potential custards say with a pinch of salt as many will tell porkies just to try get you to do the work. These are generally the ones that turn out to be messers that other cleaners have dumped.

8weekly

Re: Window wars!
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2016, 09:53:58 am »
Most disputes break out when one shiner starts rubbishing another shiners work to try and win it, Iv taken work
from other shiners where the customers have told me about the things they where getting up too, poor quality, missing window and so on, I don't repeat them as even though I have no problem taking their work I wont be responsible for ruining their reputation, that ones up to them.

It's funny innit, I've gotten work where the customer has said things like that about her old window cleaner but I know that the outfit that was cleaning her windows previously was a quality one.

Most bad reports you hear from customers are due to miscommunication more than anything else. Cleaning windows isn't rocket science and I'm sure 99% of the time if they knew they'd done something wrong they'd have been happy to sort it.
I have to agree with that, plus there are some customers that are impossible to please. I just dropped one that was on her third window cleaner in a year or thereabouts.

SeanK

Re: Window wars!
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2016, 10:00:56 am »
To be honest I take what potential custards say with a pinch of salt as many will tell porkies just to try get you to do the work. Theses are generally the ones that turn out to be messers that other cleaners have dumped.

There is a certain amount of truth in that but your wrong if you think its all one sided , I would say a hell of a lot of shiners would
be in trouble if most people didn't just put up with and make do.

SeanK

Re: Window wars!
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2016, 10:09:44 am »
The majority of my work has come from taking it from other shiners and one of the biggest complaints was... Iv been with him
for years but since those guys have started working for him the quality is rubbish.
Thing is I don't think people like to complain so tend to put up with or sack the shiner without giving him/her the chance to put it right.

8weekly

Re: Window wars!
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2016, 10:27:20 am »
The majority of my work has come from taking it from other shiners and one of the biggest complaints was... Iv been with him
for years but since those guys have started working for him the quality is rubbish.

Genuinely, in the 6 years I've been going I've only ever heard that once. The most common complaint is "he just stopped coming round".

However, I think there is some truth in what you say in that employees don't have the same awareness that some customers are very fussy.

SeanK

Re: Window wars!
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2016, 11:34:31 am »
The majority of my work has come from taking it from other shiners and one of the biggest complaints was... Iv been with him
for years but since those guys have started working for him the quality is rubbish.

Genuinely, in the 6 years I've been going I've only ever heard that once. The most common complaint is "he just stopped coming round".

However, I think there is some truth in what you say in that employees don't have the same awareness that some customers are very fussy.

I think most customers are fussy if not the cheaper shiners would have all the work, that said there people who just like to
complain and are best avoided.

CleanClear

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2016, 09:32:50 pm »

I worked in Liverpool for a week , everyone was great!


I live here mate. Other window cleaners are not great, its a myth. The unwritten rule is , you do not clean a street where there is already another cleaner. Thats how it works.
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Soupy

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2016, 09:17:31 am »

I worked in Liverpool for a week , everyone was great!


I live here mate. Other window cleaners are not great, its a myth. The unwritten rule is , you do not clean a street where there is already another cleaner. Thats how it works.

Or what?
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

Shrek

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Re: Window wars!
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2016, 12:07:21 pm »

I worked in Liverpool for a week , everyone was great!


I live here mate. Other window cleaners are not great, its a myth. The unwritten rule is , you do not clean a street where there is already another cleaner. Thats how it works.

Unwritten rule

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