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ben M

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2016, 11:59:26 pm »
I think £15.00 is too cheap with a conny.
+1 at least£20

SeanK

Re: price confidently
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2016, 07:29:45 am »
I think £15.00 is too cheap with a conny.
+1 at least£20


I take it by coming out with these statements you both know the area and what its possible to achieve working in it ?

supernova77

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2016, 07:31:46 am »
We have a minimum charge of £20.

A house like this would be £25 - £30 (8 weekly) depending on what car they have on the drive :)

But it wouldn't take us only 10 minutes... We clean windows properly ;)

SeanK

Re: price confidently
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2016, 07:49:35 am »
We have a minimum charge of £20.

A house like this would be £25 - £30 (8 weekly) depending on what car they have on the drive :)

But it wouldn't take us only 10 minutes... We clean windows properly ;)

You can clean windows properly quickly or you can clean windows properly slowly that's up to you, but when you
work in an area where people aren't willing to pay £25 to £30 for a property like this then it pays to be able to do them
quicker.

billy1

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2016, 08:30:08 am »
Where I am£10 would be the going rate you would be vary lucky to get £12
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Soupy

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2016, 08:35:36 am »
Seriously? If I could only get £10 - £15 for a house that size I'd either move or pack in altogether.
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dazmond

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2016, 08:36:29 am »
its a 4 bed house with a double garage.it cant be such a bad area. ;D

i cant believe how much some window cleaners are prepared to work for.there are guys charging £8-£10 for similar properties near where i work.(2 trad guys in a car).they come from miles away too.
price higher/work harder!

G Griffin

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2016, 08:54:05 am »
I think £15.00 is too cheap with a conny.
Sadly i agree. But in this particular area there are lads still charging 5 quid on trad work, and dispite how the house looks its not a well off area. I would love to charge min of 20 for this one, 10 mins and the job is done. So im still happy with 15.
What happened to pricing confidently?  Haha.

Even tho its not at the higher end which i would prefer, its still 3 times more than my competitors.   Theres the confidence!!
I'm joking but by agreeing that it was too cheap you showed a lack of confidence.
If you'd stuck to your guns and said £15 was the 'best' price you could get then you'd be pricing confidently.  Being dearer doesn't mean  you're more confident.
I'm dearer than many round my way but still way too cheap as my confidence is undermined by what they charge.  Customers have an expectation and we don't want to shock them.
Pricing on what others charge isn't really showing confidence in yourself, is it?

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Shrek

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2016, 09:12:36 am »
It'd be a PITA if she cancelled next month though as the other guy has managed to fit her in who charges £10 , I find the ones who ask for a cheaper deal don't usually last long as they're always on the lookout for someone cheaper . But stick to your guns , raise the bar , be better than everyone else, strive for perfection and  hopefully one day everyone will follow suit

SeanK

Re: price confidently
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2016, 09:21:39 am »
I think £15.00 is too cheap with a conny.
Sadly i agree. But in this particular area there are lads still charging 5 quid on trad work, and dispite how the house looks its not a well off area. I would love to charge min of 20 for this one, 10 mins and the job is done. So im still happy with 15.
What happened to pricing confidently?  Haha.

Even tho its not at the higher end which i would prefer, its still 3 times more than my competitors.   Theres the confidence!!
I'm joking but by agreeing that it was too cheap you showed a lack of confidence.
If you'd stuck to your guns and said £15 was the 'best' price you could get then you'd be pricing confidently.  Being dearer doesn't mean  you're more confident.
I'm dearer than many round my way but still way too cheap as my confidence is undermined by what they charge.  Customers have an expectation and we don't want to shock them.
Pricing on what others charge isn't really showing confidence in yourself, is it?

Sorry for the English lesson; go and enjoy your pork melt!

In a way your right as our confidence is determined by what's going on around us but that gives us a choice, do we take the lower
prices or go even lower or do we take the higher prices and up them a bit more.
For me the later option shows more confidence, as for Nathan well he believes he is charging well above the average price for
his area and for me that shows confidence.
Could he get more, could any of us get more ? who knows and unless we all start upping our prices until a large percentage
of our customers start cancelling our service then we will never know if we have pushed the prices to the limit.

G Griffin

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2016, 09:42:55 am »
My point was that he was told it was too cheap and he replied 'sadly, I agree'.  And then he mentioned what others were charging.
But that's more about confidence than pricing.
He was confident enough to stick with £15 but not enough to push for what he'd be happy with,
But I think his real lack of confidence was in agreeing with James Purewash.  I don't think he was sure enough of himself- on a forum- to say that he was happy with the 15 notes.

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nathankaye

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2016, 10:04:13 am »
My point was that he was told it was too cheap and he replied 'sadly, I agree'.  And then he mentioned what others were charging.
But that's more about confidence than pricing.
He was confident enough to stick with £15 but not enough to push for what he'd be happy with,
But I think his real lack of confidence was in agreeing with James Purewash.  I don't think he was sure enough of himself- on a forum- to say that he was happy with the 15 notes.

I would be!

Sean K,   spot on with your analysis.
 
In an ideal world how many of us are happy with the price we give but still would like an whole lot more. Like in the situation i mention. Yes i am happy with the 15 i quoted, yes it was said in confidence, yes its higher than all my competitors and yes stuck to my price and did not wafer just to get the job. However, would i like 20 or 25 for the job, of course, who wouldnt. But also as my first post mentioned, i turned that 15quid job into a 140quid job, so was i happy with that, certainly. Did i lack the confidence to sell up, thinking she wouldnt bite as originally she wanted a quote of 10?  NOPE!!
will she dump me next month, maybe......unlikely....but maybe.
My charm  and great rapport  (?my spelling sucks) i had with her and what made her agree to additional work? My confidence in selling and she was impressed with the QUALITY of work that i was doing! to me its a win, win
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G Griffin

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2016, 11:19:23 am »
My charm  and great rapport  (?my spelling sucks) i had with her and what made her agree to additional work? My confidence in selling and she was impressed with the QUALITY of work that i was doing! to me its a win, win
No, there's nothing wrong with your confidence.
I'm glad you got the job(s).
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Dave Willis

Re: price confidently
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2016, 12:04:59 pm »
Colgate toothpaste works for me.

8weekly

Re: price confidently
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2016, 01:03:41 pm »
Seriously? If I could only get £10 - £15 for a house that size I'd either move or pack in altogether.
I think people pay too much attention to what others charge. To me that would be a £27 house. £22 for the house and £5 for the conservatory and I do loads like that at that price. There would be others around here that would do it for £15 but I don't care. Like you, if that's all I could charge I'd do something else.

ChumBucket

Re: price confidently
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2016, 01:58:40 pm »
It wouldn't have mattered if the OP had stated £35- the usual suspects would have then charged £65!  ;D

Smurf

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2016, 02:16:59 pm »
My point was that he was told it was too cheap and he replied 'sadly, I agree'.  And then he mentioned what others were charging.
But that's more about confidence than pricing.
He was confident enough to stick with £15 but not enough to push for what he'd be happy with,
But I think his real lack of confidence was in agreeing with James Purewash.  I don't think he was sure enough of himself- on a forum- to say that he was happy with the 15 notes.

I would be!

Sean K,   spot on with your analysis.
 
In an ideal world how many of us are happy with the price we give but still would like an whole lot more. Like in the situation i mention. Yes i am happy with the 15 i quoted, yes it was said in confidence, yes its higher than all my competitors and yes stuck to my price and did not wafer just to get the job. However, would i like 20 or 25 for the job, of course, who wouldnt. But also as my first post mentioned, i turned that 15quid job into a 140quid job, so was i happy with that, certainly. Did i lack the confidence to sell up, thinking she wouldnt bite as originally she wanted a quote of 10?  NOPE!!
will she dump me next month, maybe......unlikely....but maybe.
My charm  and great rapport  (?my spelling sucks) i had with her and what made her agree to additional work? My confidence in selling and she was impressed with the QUALITY of work that i was doing! to me its a win, win

A good example of what I come accross quite often as was at a small 3 bed semi quote last week which I found out as we were talking they already had a trad window cleaner charging 5 squid 4 weekly.

The front has a garage attached to the front wall of the house so the trad guy clambers on that to get to one front window to clean. The back has a ridged roof ground floor extension across the back so the trad guy also goes clambering over to get to the back windows. All that hassle for a fiver I'm thinking.

Also in conversation the last time they had the guttering cleared a lad done it clambering about on the house roof for 20 squid front/back.

Hmmm...I thought this is going to be a total waste of time 

Anyway after doing a free guttercam inspection and showing them they needed clearing. Going into detail what methods I would be using and confirming what they wanted doing I said "I'm not cheap but will do a proper job" as a primer before they would likely die of shock giving them my price.

Quoted £180 to clear the guttering & FSG clean
+ £20 to take down an old sat dish high up on the gable end wall.

Can you guess what they said?

Believe it or not they said "when can you do it" so the point I’m making is don’t be put off by cheap prices and have the balls to still ask what you want for the job no matter what.

Stoots

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2016, 02:19:26 pm »
Seriously? If I could only get £10 - £15 for a house that size I'd either move or pack in altogether.

Yes but thats said from the perspective of working in an area with better prices. So your living expenses are probably more.

In my area these houses would be 10-15 and that's high end there are guys cheaper.

That said I could turnover 200 a day doing these working about 9-3 so I suppose it depends on  your living expenses and eat you expect to earn. But round here 200  a day is a good wage for an essentially unskilled trade scrubbing some glass with a brush

Tom-01

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2016, 02:39:16 pm »
I would move

nathankaye

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Re: price confidently
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2016, 02:52:00 pm »
Prices are relative to many factors as sooo many of these threads about price shows.
A huge factor is cost of living etc etc.
This post isnt directly related to the price i quoted and was happy to quote or else i would have quoted a different price (obviously)
The intention was highlighting not to be put off by asking the higher price because of competition etc or asking for a lower price just to get the job.   Smurf's post above highlights that as well.

So all the ones going on about what they would charge, if thats the best you can charge in relation to competition etc then great, well done (as greographical factors ie cost of living will show a huge difference in price. I would charge 20 odd for house, somebody else in their area may charge 40 and pimp that.)   
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