[Shane sharples]

Don't forget the hard hats too...It's all bull I know but makes for a good pic instead of a chap wearing a bobble hat

Out of choice I prefer the bright yellow ones to white as stands out more. Mind you as Mick is the boss so a white one would be more appropriate.

Hard hats? what a plonker , what are you going to get injured by on your head when window cleaning, you seem to be obsessed with your hard hat but it makes you look like you don't understand the health and safety rules

Shrek what do you think of this pic then. Would you say the chap looks a plonker or someone that looks professional and the firm that he work for takes ppe seriously?

I would say it's totally inappropriate, as much use as a life guard wearing steel toe cap boots. Just because ppe is available to buy, it doesn't mean you have to use it on every job . What's going to fall on his or your head when water fed poling? A plane?

[Smurf]

Don't forget the hard hats too...It's all bull I know but makes for a good pic instead of a chap wearing a bobble hat

Out of choice I prefer the bright yellow ones to white as stands out more. Mind you as Mick is the boss so a white one would be more appropriate.

Hard hats? what a plonker , what are you going to get injured by on your head when window cleaning, you seem to be obsessed with your hard hat but it makes you look like you don't understand the health and safety rules

Shrek what do you think of this pic then. Would you say the chap looks a plonker or someone that looks professional and the firm that he work for takes ppe seriously?

I would say it's totally inappropriate, as much use as a life guard wearing steel toe cap boots. Just because ppe is available to buy, it doesn't mean you have to use it on every job . What's going to fall on his or your head when water fed poling? A plane?

A  snapped pole maybe or another guy decides to loose control and drop his pole on your head

[Shane sharples]

Your just being unrealistic

[Smurf]

I wear a hard hat out of choice but that don't make me a plonker as it not only protects my head it keeps it warm and dry too.

I've had a few close calls with broken tiles etc and ever a gopro falling off a pole whilst working from the ground. Not only that have  banged my head on a number of things around a property like hanging baskets & just the brackets, branches of trees etc.

You could say I'm a bit of a head banger 

[Shane sharples]

I wasn't on about gutter clearing and you weren't , anyways each to their own 🆗🆒

[AuRavelling79]

Hilarious - the OP is getting over £700 for a days work cleaning windows, paying a subbie a reasonable sum, working with no traffic in an empty car park and some on this thread make a fuss about hard hats and hi viz.

Then a picture is put up of a guy in a hi viz and hard hat working too close to a building for the good of his neck - and yes the weight of the hard hat does make a difference if your head is at an awkward angle.

I say well done to Mick Kent, well done to his worker for dressing warmly and comfortably and no man hates the smell of his own farts. 

[nathankaye]

Aye, its a good job we're all grown men and can take different opinions of people on the chin without throwing the dummy out

[Smurf]

Hilarious - the OP is getting over £700 for a days work cleaning windows, paying a subbie a reasonable sum, working with no traffic in an empty car park and some on this thread make a fuss about hard hats and hi viz.

Then a picture is put up of a guy in a hi viz and hard hat working too close to a building for the good of his neck - and yes the weight of the hard hat does make a difference if your head is at an awkward angle.

I say well done to Mick Kent, well done to his worker for dressing warmly and comfortably and no man hates the smell of his own farts. 

Indeed

[CLEANCARE WC]

Hilarious - the OP is getting over £700 for a days work cleaning windows, paying a subbie a reasonable sum, working with no traffic in an empty car park and some on this thread make a fuss about hard hats and hi viz.

Then a picture is put up of a guy in a hi viz and hard hat working too close to a building for the good of his neck - and yes the weight of the hard hat does make a difference if your head is at an awkward angle.

I say well done to Mick Kent, well done to his worker for dressing warmly and comfortably and no man hates the smell of his own farts. 

To quote fat B****ard from Austin powers...

Everyone loves their own brand 

[rosskesava]

Hard hats and Hi-Vis.

I watched some tv news thing recently about something where the fire service were needed and when the news lady interviewed the fire officer in charge and even though the incident was well over, he was still wearing his hi vis stuff and a hard hat even though they were well away from any non existent danger and in a safe place.

It's become a status symbol. As in 'look at me', I'm important because I'm wearing PPE even though there is absolutely no need to.

[Clever Forum Name]

I haven't read the whole thread but is it wise to state prices?

I lost a job last year down to in house cleaning.......Or so i thought!

I have just found out i happened to mention the price to a so called friend and hes gone and undercut me.

It was a commercial job for £195 and took 2 hours. I did say be nice to get an extra £5, £100 an hour loving it mate hahahahah

My Partners friend works there and it came up in convo at weekend. He roughly knew when it was due.

I don't know who's the bigger idiot.

Me for telling him a price or him for working at a cheaper rate.

it was hard on the neck for 2 hours tbh! Horrible access.

But that's me done now with talking/helping people who i meet now.

Will just go down the route of all the other cleaners round here now. Tell em nothing 

[nathankaye]

I haven't read the whole thread but is it wise to state prices?

I lost a job last year down to in house cleaning.......Or so i thought!

I have just found out i happened to mention the price to a so called friend and hes gone and undercut me.

It was a commercial job for £195 and took 2 hours. I did say be nice to get an extra £5, £100 an hour loving it mate hahahahah

My Partners friend works there and it came up in convo at weekend. He roughly knew when it was due.

I don't know who's the bigger idiot.

Me for telling him a price or him for working at a cheaper rate.

it was hard on the neck for 2 hours tbh! Horrible access.

But that's me done now with talking/helping people who i meet now.

Will just go down the route of all the other cleaners round here now. Tell em nothing 

Absolutely!! Good rule to live by. I have ones who contact me on business page and want to kno generally how much I charge per house. I tell them its house dependant and need an address I can then give a price. Never hear bk from them. I take it that they are competitors. They even interupt me working to ask price. Thing is, probably like you guys, iv been in my areas over 14yrs and have 14 yrs exp in this game. You get to kno faces and you kno which ones are cowboy cleaners wanting to move on your patch and which ones are genuine customers enquiring.

Never boast about the charge and give nothing away. Its a business after all and your protecting your investment

[Smurf]

Hard hats and Hi-Vis.

I watched some tv news thing recently about something where the fire service were needed and when the news lady interviewed the fire officer in charge and even though the incident was well over, he was still wearing his hi vis stuff and a hard hat even though they were well away from any non existent danger and in a safe place.

It's become a status symbol. As in 'look at me', I'm important because I'm wearing PPE even though there is absolutely no need to.

So you think he should have taken his hard hat off just because he was being interviewed.
For all you know he may have been having a bad hair day 

[Smurf]

I haven't read the whole thread but is it wise to state prices?

I lost a job last year down to in house cleaning.......Or so i thought!

I have just found out i happened to mention the price to a so called friend and hes gone and undercut me.

It was a commercial job for £195 and took 2 hours. I did say be nice to get an extra £5, £100 an hour loving it mate hahahahah

My Partners friend works there and it came up in convo at weekend. He roughly knew when it was due.

I don't know who's the bigger idiot.

Me for telling him a price or him for working at a cheaper rate.

it was hard on the neck for 2 hours tbh! Horrible access.

But that's me done now with talking/helping people who i meet now.

Will just go down the route of all the other cleaners round here now. Tell em nothing 

I would never go out of my way to take another cleaners work off them by dilibrately trying to undercut them if asked to give a quote. I also would expect no decent cleaner worth his salt would do that to me either. I'm not that green to know it happens quite a bit but all sounds very desperate to me as selling on price alone will just end up driving prices down further and the guy's that do it will shoot themselves in the foot bigtime.