Glad i saw this post! A good friend of mine doesnt want to switch to wfp, dispite me telling him of all advantages, so i was gonna recommend the liquidator to him. Dont think i will bother now. He uses unger ergotec with pulex hard rubber, same as me when trad (trained him up 8yrs bk or more). Pulex hard rubber cheap enough to replace monthly which keeps detailing down to a bare miminimum any way.